NFHS Rules Changes Predictions/Rumors/Desires

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

We heard all these same types of comments as we were putting the shot clock in...guess what - it wasn't (and isn't) as big a problem as you think it is.

The bolded portion means it is still a problem. And we, at least around here, do not need the added headache. Not just a question of compentent table personnel, also competent officials.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

The bolded portion means it is still a problem. And we, at least around here, do not need the added headache. Not just a question of compentent table personnel, also competent officials.

You work NCAA games, right? How often do you have shot clock issues in a game?

It isn't any higher (and quite often is lower) per game than any of the college games I work.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

It isn't any higher (and quite often is lower) per game than any of the college games I work.

I find it hard to believe that HS in your area are getting better table personal than colleges and/or that they are spending more time training them correctly. Regardless, this would definitely not be the case where JRut and I work HS games.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by johnny d

I find it hard to believe that HS in your area are getting better table personal than colleges and/or that they are spending more time training them correctly. Regardless, this would definitely not be the case where JRut and I work HS games.

My momma says, "The table crew is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get."

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

You work NCAA games, right? How often do you have shot clock issues in a game?

It isn't any higher (and quite often is lower) per game than any of the college games I work.

We have enough problems in NCAA games with trained personnel that I do not want to deal with it in HS games with untrained personnel.

It may work great where you are, but I know from what I've seen around these parts I don't want it in my HS games.

[rockyroad]

This cracks me up...ALL of the things people are saying about the shot clock were said here when the idea first came up. Seriously - every single argument you guys are making came up here also.

Like I said...in the end, it really wasn't that big of a hassle.

Oh well...

[Raymond]

There's also the fact that I don't think HS games need a shot clock.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

This cracks me up...ALL of the things people are saying about the shot clock were said here when the idea first came up. Seriously - every single argument you guys are making came up here also.

Like I said...in the end, it really wasn't that big of a hassle.

Oh well...

Well that is great, but cost is the most important thing anyway. And that is why I do not feel the NF is going to make a rule that would require every jurisdiction to add this rule. Even if they did, I would see some states saying "Not yet...."

Peace

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

The bolded portion means it is still a problem. And we, at least around here, do not need the added headache. Not just a question of compentent table personnel, also competent officials.

This is my concern. All it takes is one major problem with the shot clock and someone is going to complain they were screwed. And I do not feel most HS officials honestly can keep themselves from further problems. At least not where the learning curve it would take to solve the issue. Yes, I realize many states do this already, but we have a larger state than many and I do not want the headaches trying to solve basic clock issues that some kid will screw up. Heck we have enough problems with trying to solve book issues, not we want to add that to someone that does not know the basic rules that a shot clock would apply?

Peace

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

This is my concern. All it takes is one major problem with the shot clock and someone is going to complain they were screwed. And I do not feel most HS officials honestly can keep themselves from further problems. At least not where the learning curve it would take to solve the issue. Yes, I realize many states do this already, but we have a larger state than many and I do not want the headaches trying to solve basic clock issues that some kid will screw up. Heck we have enough problems with trying to solve book issues, not we want to add that to someone that does not know the basic rules that a shot clock would apply?

Peace

I have to agree with Jeff here. I work with a shot-clock in my GV games and without one in most of my BV games. The headache comes from worrying whether the kid - and 99% of the time it's a kid - operating the shot-clock is paying attention or has even been trained properly. We still do the ten-second count in my GV game by hand because NYS didn't want to take it for granted that the shot-clock operators would reset/start the thing properly.

The only positive for me is I can solve shot-clock problems in my NCAAW games in a heartbeat because I'm so used to checking the thing from my HS games.