NFHS Rules Changes Predictions/Rumors/Desires

[HokiePaul]

2014 NFHS Basketball Rules Questionnaire...

Part III – About Rules For 2014-15 – Would You Favor? --

I'd favor these...

1. Allowing participants to wear tights.

2. Allowing the use of the "punch" signal for player-control foul as well as team-control foul.

3. Changing the number of time-outs to 3-30s and 2-60s.

6. Allowing the use of a shot clock as a state adoption option.

7. Allowing the use of 18-minute halves as a state adoption option.

9. Not using the "stop the clock signal" on violations.

12. Eliminating the requirement for players or coaches to verify that compression sleeves are worn for medical reasons.

13. Allowing players to move into the lane on the release rather than wait for the ball to contact the ring.

14. Clarifying language on what announcers can announce during the contest.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by HokiePaul

6. Allowing the use of a shot clock as a state adoption option.

I hope my state never uses a shot clock in hs basketball. Problems with the shot clock not being set/reset and started properly by incompetent table crews would become the biggest pain in the ass.

[Robert E. Harrison]

How many actually call stepping out of bounds by offense or defense as a violation? If the defense does it you give the ball back to the offense and go and it is a turn over if the offense steps out.

Can we say gains an advantage by stepping out of bounds and go back to calling a charge if the defender seals of the endline by putting a foot on the line?

How many get tired of warning players and coaches for stepping OOB?

[PG_Ref]

Originally Posted by Robert E. Harrison

How many get tired of warning players and coaches for stepping OOB?

Stop warning and just blow the whistle.

[PG_Ref]

Let's add a mechanic for "tripping" and come up with a mechanic for "piling on the scrum" on a loose ball.

[Pantherdreams]

1 - Any support or freedoms they can give to encourage shot clock.

2- Allowing players on the lane to leave on the release, and eliminating the wiping off of made baskets for violations made by teammates on the lane.

3 - Any removal on restrictions or application of as many fashion police items as possible.

4 - 1 TC/PC mechanic.

5 - Lets make "over the back" an actual thing so that players/coaches/fans can acutally properly ask for something.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

5 - Lets make "over the back" an actual thing so that players/coaches/fans can acutally properly ask for something.

So how in the heck are you going to accomplish this? You would need to completely change rules to make the back special and probably would have to define (by changing other definitions) when this could take place. The verticality rules are already clear and in place. I do not want to add a rule that would get screwed up by the wording. And I think this is not going to happen.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

1 TC/PC mechanic.

Agree, but let's not forget that all team control fouls aren't exactly the same as all player control fouls.

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

5 - Lets make "over the back" an actual thing so that players/coaches/fans can acutally properly ask for something.

Hell no, we can't let them win.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by johnny d

I hope my state never uses a shot clock in hs basketball. Problems with the shot clock not being set/reset and started properly by incompetent table crews would become the biggest pain in the ass.

Must have a state full of idiots...we've had shot clock for quite some time and there aren't any more issues in a HS game than in a higher level game. Not even thinking back to the first few years...just wasn't that big of a problem.

And going back to getting rid of the seatbelt on an indirect T...I would be OK with that if they also changed the rule to only one T on assistant coaches being an ejection.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Must have a state full of idiots...we've had shot clock for quite some time and there aren't any more issues in a HS game than in a higher level game. Not even thinking back to the first few years...just wasn't that big of a problem.

And going back to getting rid of the seatbelt on an indirect T...I would be OK with that if they also changed the rule to only one T on assistant coaches being an ejection.

The problem is some schools, especially in Chicago, don't want to pay teachers to sit at the table as it is to do the book and scoreboard. They have students with little or no training. A problem that would be exacerbated with the addition of a shot clock.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by johnny d

The problem is some schools, especially in Chicago, don't want to pay teachers to sit at the table as it is to do the book and scoreboard. They have students with little or no training. A problem that would be exacerbated with the addition of a shot clock.

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Must have a state full of idiots...we've had shot clock for quite some time and there aren't any more issues in a HS game than in a higher level game. Not even thinking back to the first few years...just wasn't that big of a problem.

If you cannot get JUCO and other small colleges to get a person to run a shot clock properly, without constant corrections, I do not think they will find consistency with 800 or so schools. I never want to see the shot clock at high school either. Not unless you have someone that is trained more to do the job. Often it is a kid or someone that would rather text message to a friend in the stands. No thanks!!!!

Peace

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If you cannot get JUCO and other small colleges to get a person to run a shot clock properly, without constant corrections, I do not think they will find consistency with 800 or so schools. I never want to see the shot clock at high school either. Not unless you have someone that is trained more to do the job. Often it is a kid or someone that would rather text message to a friend in the stands. No thanks!!!!

Peace

We heard all these same types of comments as we were putting the shot clock in...guess what - it wasn't (and isn't) as big a problem as you think it is.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

We heard all these same types of comments as we were putting the shot clock in...guess what - it wasn't (and isn't) as big a problem as you think it is.

Well that is great, then make it a state adopted rule and I hope my state does not adopt the rule.

But most of all this is going to be a cost issue. Schools that can barely afford athletics as it is will have to take on another expense. And in many cases will have to put in something in different gyms. Schools are having a problem getting uniforms for all their sports and now they will have to add thousands of dollars for a device? And yes not every school is funded the same way across the country. Many school districts are funded by property taxes and that means some schools have much more money than the other based on the community and house prices. I think that is one of the reason the NF is not going to touch this rule anytime soon. I am sure it is much worse in some other states.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

We heard all these same types of comments as we were putting the shot clock in...guess what - it wasn't (and isn't) as big a problem as you think it is.

The bolded portion means it is still a problem. And we, at least around here, do not need the added headache. Not just a question of compentent table personnel, also competent officials.