Texas-Maryland Womens (Video)

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

A1 loses her balance and falls on her own. B1 didn't dive on top of A1. So I have nothing but a held ball like the officials did.

MD coach would get a "calm down" from me if I'm the new Lead. But if that's all she's done the entire game I'm not seeing a T for this.

It looks to me the second time I saw this, that the ball handler was falling and the defender was getting out of the way.

I would like to see more to completely dismiss the "dive" onto the ball handler. But I can see for sure why nothing was called.

Peace

I have a foul on the initial defender. The defender never had LGP and is just silly to try and defend like that. If I pass on that, I would have a foul on the defender jumping on top of the other player.

I would whack the coach for that stutter-step down the sideline combined with the arm movement. If I missed that, I would whack the coach for coming out of her huddle to yell and point at the officials again.

The coach also threw a fit with 6:00 left in the second half and the game was close the rest of the way so I assume none of the officials took care of the problem.

[Nevadaref]

100% a foul by the Texas defender. This illegal contact causes the dribbler to go to the floor and lose possession of the ball.
100% a technical foul by the Maryland coach for jumping up and down and hollering.

Are NCAAW officials neutered? This has to be one of the easiest Ts on a coach that is possible.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

100% a foul by the Texas defender. This illegal contact causes the dribbler to go to the floor and lose possession of the ball.
100% a technical foul by the Maryland coach for jumping up and down and hollering.

The contact on the BH/D is one of the plays specifically identified in our (NCAAW) preseason videos that we're supposed to call. I'm surprised no one put a whistle on it. When the C didn't get it the L and T probably figured there hand't been any illegal contact.

And yes, Brenda Freese needed to get a T for going berserk and leaving the coaching box to do so. What she did was identified in last year's preseason video as conduct that must be penalized.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Are NCAAW officials neutered? This has to be one of the easiest Ts on a coach that is possible.

You mean the way NCAAM's officials hand out Ts to coaches every time they lose it on the sidelines?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

The contact on the BH/D is one of the plays specifically identified in our (NCAAW) preseason videos that we're supposed to call. I'm surprised no one put a whistle on it. When the C didn't get it the L and T probably figured there hand't been any illegal contact.

Well is it possible that the official felt that the ball handler was falling on their own? I keep reading people say, "That kind of contact needs to be called" but if the BH is falling on their own, that contact was not special or contributed to the player falling. After all, they did pass on a foul. That might have been the reasoning even if you or others disagree.

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

And yes, Brenda Freese needed to get a T for going berserk and leaving the coaching box to do so. What she did was identified in last year's preseason video as conduct that must be penalized.


You mean the way NCAAM's officials hand out Ts to coaches every time they lose it on the sidelines?

Right or wrong, NCAAM's side does give out more Ts and high profile situations. For some reason you see coaches on the NCAAW's side has coaches throwing and stomping and nothing is done. And it is much more than a 20 second clip to make that determination. I have some ideas why, but then again that will offend people here, so why bother.

Peace

[walt]

I was at the game sitting across from the benches looking at it from almost directly behind the C. 6 rows up. I was there with two other NCAA-W officials. Watching it live, all of us thought the dribbler had started to lose the ball and started to fall on her own. We were all ok with the no call. That being said, all three of us thought Brenda Frese deserved the T when she walked away from her team and back toward the play. FWIW, during the timeout interval, the R talked to her and she shook her head ok and walked away.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by walt

I was at the game sitting across from the benches looking at it from almost directly behind the C. 6 rows up. I was there with two other NCAA-W officials. Watching it live, all of us thought the dribbler had started to lose the ball and started to fall on her own. We were all ok with the no call. That being said, all three of us thought Brenda Frese deserved the T when she walked away from her team and back toward the play. FWIW, during the timeout interval, the R talked to her and she shook her head ok and walked away.

I just don't see that from the video, but I appreciate the "I was there" account. Seriously. I'll go back and look at it again.

[rockyroad]

There are more coaches on the men's side who act like a Cronin or a Kryzewhooski than there are on the women's side...so of course there are more T's there.

Did this Coach deserve a T? Yep...and there were probably 3 or 4 games last week where a Men's coach deserved a T but didn't get one.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Are NCAAW officials neutered? This has to be one of the easiest Ts on a coach that is possible.

Seriously?

Are you off your meds again? You make a valid argument for something and then end your post by slamming an entire group of people based on one 20 second clip...smdh.

[All_Heart]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

100% a technical foul by the Maryland coach for jumping up and down and hollering.

Are NCAAW officials neutered? This has to be one of the easiest Ts on a coach that is possible.

You are assuming the officials saw the coach's actions and made a decision to not call a technical. There are some actions we don't observe because we are zeroing in on a potential problem area. This is the case with this play with players going to the ground. Unless we start going to the monitor to review all actions on the sideline it is not always "easy" to see the actions (jumping, wave offs, etc) from coaches, bench personnel, fans, etc during live play.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by All_Heart

You are assuming the officials saw the coach's actions and made a decision to not call a technical. There are some actions we don't observe because we are zeroing in on a potential problem area. This is the case with this play with players going to the ground. Unless we start going to the monitor to review all actions on the sideline it is not always "easy" to see the actions (jumping, wave offs, etc) from coaches, bench personnel, fans, etc during live play.

You don't think that the new Lead saw the coach throw her tantrum?

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You don't think that the new Lead saw the coach throw her tantrum?

walt said the R talked to the coach during the timeout so yes, I would say the crew definitely knew the coach did something.

[walt]

Originally Posted by AremRed

walt said the R talked to the coach during the timeout so yes, I would say the crew definitely knew the coach did something.

She came out to the floor and waved him over. The R went over to her and she calmly pointed down the floor toward where the play occurred. The R is the Old Lead/New Trail in the video. They talked. She nodded. Gave him the tap on the back and walked away with no other reaction. She may not have liked the explanation but she let it go. The crew looked like they were waiting to talk to her anyway during the timeout and as soon as she made her move, the R made his.