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Old Wed Mar 26, 2014, 03:17pm
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A1 loses her balance and falls on her own. B1 didn't dive on top of A1. So I have nothing but a held ball like the officials did.

MD coach would get a "calm down" from me if I'm the new Lead. But if that's all she's done the entire game I'm not seeing a T for this.
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Old Wed Mar 26, 2014, 07:36pm
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A1 loses her balance and falls on her own. B1 didn't dive on top of A1. So I have nothing but a held ball like the officials did.

MD coach would get a "calm down" from me if I'm the new Lead. But if that's all she's done the entire game I'm not seeing a T for this.
It looks to me the second time I saw this, that the ball handler was falling and the defender was getting out of the way.

I would like to see more to completely dismiss the "dive" onto the ball handler. But I can see for sure why nothing was called.

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Old Wed Mar 26, 2014, 07:48pm
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I have a foul on the initial defender. The defender never had LGP and is just silly to try and defend like that. If I pass on that, I would have a foul on the defender jumping on top of the other player.

I would whack the coach for that stutter-step down the sideline combined with the arm movement. If I missed that, I would whack the coach for coming out of her huddle to yell and point at the officials again.

The coach also threw a fit with 6:00 left in the second half and the game was close the rest of the way so I assume none of the officials took care of the problem.
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Old Wed Mar 26, 2014, 11:49pm
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100% a foul by the Texas defender. This illegal contact causes the dribbler to go to the floor and lose possession of the ball.
100% a technical foul by the Maryland coach for jumping up and down and hollering.

Are NCAAW officials neutered? This has to be one of the easiest Ts on a coach that is possible.
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Old Thu Mar 27, 2014, 12:13am
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100% a foul by the Texas defender. This illegal contact causes the dribbler to go to the floor and lose possession of the ball.
100% a technical foul by the Maryland coach for jumping up and down and hollering.
The contact on the BH/D is one of the plays specifically identified in our (NCAAW) preseason videos that we're supposed to call. I'm surprised no one put a whistle on it. When the C didn't get it the L and T probably figured there hand't been any illegal contact.

And yes, Brenda Freese needed to get a T for going berserk and leaving the coaching box to do so. What she did was identified in last year's preseason video as conduct that must be penalized.



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Are NCAAW officials neutered? This has to be one of the easiest Ts on a coach that is possible.
You mean the way NCAAM's officials hand out Ts to coaches every time they lose it on the sidelines?
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Old Thu Mar 27, 2014, 10:09am
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The contact on the BH/D is one of the plays specifically identified in our (NCAAW) preseason videos that we're supposed to call. I'm surprised no one put a whistle on it. When the C didn't get it the L and T probably figured there hand't been any illegal contact.
Well is it possible that the official felt that the ball handler was falling on their own? I keep reading people say, "That kind of contact needs to be called" but if the BH is falling on their own, that contact was not special or contributed to the player falling. After all, they did pass on a foul. That might have been the reasoning even if you or others disagree.

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And yes, Brenda Freese needed to get a T for going berserk and leaving the coaching box to do so. What she did was identified in last year's preseason video as conduct that must be penalized.


You mean the way NCAAM's officials hand out Ts to coaches every time they lose it on the sidelines?
Right or wrong, NCAAM's side does give out more Ts and high profile situations. For some reason you see coaches on the NCAAW's side has coaches throwing and stomping and nothing is done. And it is much more than a 20 second clip to make that determination. I have some ideas why, but then again that will offend people here, so why bother.

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Old Thu Mar 27, 2014, 11:09am
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I was at the game sitting across from the benches looking at it from almost directly behind the C. 6 rows up. I was there with two other NCAA-W officials. Watching it live, all of us thought the dribbler had started to lose the ball and started to fall on her own. We were all ok with the no call. That being said, all three of us thought Brenda Frese deserved the T when she walked away from her team and back toward the play. FWIW, during the timeout interval, the R talked to her and she shook her head ok and walked away.
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Old Thu Mar 27, 2014, 11:10am
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There are more coaches on the men's side who act like a Cronin or a Kryzewhooski than there are on the women's side...so of course there are more T's there.

Did this Coach deserve a T? Yep...and there were probably 3 or 4 games last week where a Men's coach deserved a T but didn't get one.
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Old Thu Mar 27, 2014, 09:50am
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Are NCAAW officials neutered? This has to be one of the easiest Ts on a coach that is possible.
Seriously?

Are you off your meds again? You make a valid argument for something and then end your post by slamming an entire group of people based on one 20 second clip...smdh.
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Old Fri Mar 28, 2014, 11:59am
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100% a technical foul by the Maryland coach for jumping up and down and hollering.

Are NCAAW officials neutered? This has to be one of the easiest Ts on a coach that is possible.
You are assuming the officials saw the coach's actions and made a decision to not call a technical. There are some actions we don't observe because we are zeroing in on a potential problem area. This is the case with this play with players going to the ground. Unless we start going to the monitor to review all actions on the sideline it is not always "easy" to see the actions (jumping, wave offs, etc) from coaches, bench personnel, fans, etc during live play.
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Old Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:10pm
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You are assuming the officials saw the coach's actions and made a decision to not call a technical. There are some actions we don't observe because we are zeroing in on a potential problem area. This is the case with this play with players going to the ground. Unless we start going to the monitor to review all actions on the sideline it is not always "easy" to see the actions (jumping, wave offs, etc) from coaches, bench personnel, fans, etc during live play.
You don't think that the new Lead saw the coach throw her tantrum?
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Old Fri Mar 28, 2014, 07:36pm
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You don't think that the new Lead saw the coach throw her tantrum?
walt said the R talked to the coach during the timeout so yes, I would say the crew definitely knew the coach did something.
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