Kentucky vs. Wichita State Throw-In Violation (Video)

[Adam]

16:30 left, second half. TI violation called following a PC foul.

Announcer (idiot) said he "stepped over the line". That's not what happened, he seems to have left the 3 foot spot and the call was delayed a couple of seconds.

Oh, and the T signaled a travel.

[OKREF]

He first waved is arms and just went with a violation, then used the travel signal. I might add, it did come late, as the ball was already inbounded. Almost looked like he was going to pass on it, then changed his mind.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by OKREF

He first waved is arms and just went with a violation, then used the travel signal. I might add, it did come late, as the ball was already inbounded. Almost looked like he was going to pass on it, then changed his mind.

It was a close enough call, I had to watch a few times. It looked to me like he forgot for a moment that it was a spot throw in.

[APG]

It should also be mentioned that the officials added a second back on the clock before the subsequent throw-in after the violation.

[Raymond]

first mechanic was correct second mechanic with wrong. But he got his point across.

[Camron Rust]

Another perpetuation of the myth that you can travel on a throwin.

If he'd stopped after the first signal, all would have been good.

[Multiple Sports]

He forgot and then made up the travel....at that level that is embarrassing.....

[Rich]

Eh, the use of the travel signal has never bothered me, for some reason.

Originally Posted by Rich

Eh, the use of the travel signal has never bothered me, for some reason.

Me either. I don't use it and don't advocate it, but don't care if others do it given that there is no "official" signal. The first signal the official did is the one I use.

Was this coming out of a timeout? Perhaps some preventative officiating could have prevented this?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Perhaps some preventative officiating could have prevented this?

"Designated spot" (and point).

[JRutledge]

The main reason I hate the signal for violations on a throw-in, people think the thrower has a pivot foot. They clearly do not and giving the travel helps confuse the issue.

Also in this play he was really late with the call.

Peace

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Me either. I don't use it and don't advocate it, but don't care if others do it given that there is no "official" signal. The first signal the official did is the one I use.

Was this coming out of a timeout? Perhaps some preventative officiating could have prevented this?

1. There is an official signal in the book for this violation.
2. "Preventative officiating" such as what? Instructing the player as to what he may or may not do on the throw-in? That's called coaching.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

1. There is an official signal in the book for this violation.
2. "Preventative officiating" such as what? Instructing the player as to what he may or may not do on the throw-in? That's called coaching.

If you tell the player what kind of thrown in they have, whether you say "Designated spot" or "You cannot move" () then you are telling them what they can do and not be confused. Not sure I consider that coaching if you are just giving basic information like you would on many other situations.

Peace

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Me either. I don't use it and don't advocate it, but don't care if others do it given that there is no "official" signal. The first signal the official did is the one I use.

Was this coming out of a timeout? Perhaps some preventative officiating could have prevented this?

I agree - coming out of the time-out: verify, even from a distance, with my partners what kind - (spot or run the endline) and where is the throw-in. It would save the crew from a possibly embarrassing situation.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

"Preventative officiating" such as what? Instructing the player as to what he may or may not do on the throw-in? That's called coaching.

No, that's called proper IAABO mechanics.

Throwin E 1 d: Throwin administration: Administering official shall ... signal the type of throwin:
1) Designated spot (may use verbiage, if so, "Designated spot").
2) Endline with no designated spot (use signal to indicate ability to move along the endline after a timeout, or unusual delay).

NFHS mechanics ???