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Old Mon Mar 03, 2014, 02:41pm
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I'll just say it would be hard not to call it if the player narc-ed on himself.

There's also nothing in 10-3-3 that says officials have to see that infraction to call it, though I'm sure that's the intent of the rule.
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There's also nothing in 10-3-3 that says officials have to see that infraction to call it, though I'm sure that's the intent of the rule.
There's nothing anywhere that says officials have to witness the act to rule on it, but it sureashell has to be assumed that's the case...otherwise, what's the alternative? Eyewitness testimony?
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I'll just say it would be hard not to call it if the player narc-ed on himself.

There's also nothing in 10-3-3 that says officials have to see that infraction to call it, though I'm sure that's the intent of the rule.
I'm not asking, that's for sure.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2014, 04:49pm
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I'm not asking and going on a detective spree. But if I were to have seen it, or my partner, no matter what it's a T.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2014, 04:59pm
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But if I were to have seen it, or my partner, no matter what it's a T.
Do you mean that if your partner tells you he saw it and passed on it, you would call a T?
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2014, 05:42pm
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Do you mean that if your partner tells you he saw it and passed on it, you would call a T?
I would ideally like him to make the call, but yes I would discuss it with him and if he didn't posses the testicular fortitude I would do the heavy lifting. It's a T, and not a judgement call.

I would also make it clear to him that I would report the situation to the assignor, if after a discussion he didn't want to call the T, and that he would be CC'd on any correspondence as he would be completely neglecting his responsibility.
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I would ideally like him to make the call, but yes I would discuss it with him and if he didn't posses the testicular fortitude I would do the heavy lifting. It's a T, and not a judgement call.
I think every T involves a certain amount of judgment with regard to the context of the action. Do you call a T every time somebody on the bench makes a travel signal? "shall not attempt to influence an official's decision."
Would you call one if your partner told you he had seen this?

A brief show of exuberance for a kid who erroneously thought the game was over is unlikely to draw a T from me, let alone if I hear about it second hand.
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Varsity level playoff game? Only two officials? If so, that may be one reason why the action wasn't seen by someone on the crew. Probably not the only thing the crew "didn't see" that night through no fault of their own. Just a thought.
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