Looking for a balance

[MD Longhorn]

Honestly - the amount of nonsense you take from any coach should have absolutely nothing to do with the score. That said, I echo some of Rich's comments. Sounds like AD was being a tool - and your assignor taking him at face value is problematical. Just because the AD felt you let too much go doesn't mean you let too much go. And perhaps he heard more than normal because of the empty gym - it's entirely possible the coach was no worse than any other coach, it was just more hearable because of the lack of fans --- only YOU can really answer that for us. It bothers me quite a bit that the assignor assumed the AD was right.

[CountTheBasket]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

It bothers me quite a bit that the assignor assumed the AD was right.

He didn't, he claimed it was "hear say" in the email. Said he requested video, and also this particular school requests a clock operator (in this case a veteran official who had to have his knees done so is out of service this year) so he asked for his feedback which he gave to me; I just didn't want to make the OP longer than it already was.

We did let him get away with too much, what I first chalked up to his frustration with his team and being overly animated, I let get to this is annoying but look at the time and score let's just get out of here.

I can come up with a list of reasons why I wasn't as focused for this game as I should've been but none of it matters: it wasn't handled correctly. I've chalked it up as a learning experience and a good reminder to never let myself mentally take the night off no matter what I think the game has in store for me.

[Sharpshooternes]

How bout this for a whining coach? "I hear ya coach but if I wanted to hear nagging all night I would have just stayed home with my wife." That would be my first warning

[stick]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

How bout this for a whining coach? "I hear ya coach but if I wanted to hear nagging all night I would have just stayed home with my wife." That would be my first warning

This didn't come from a coach but from a fan. "Hey ref, I'm going to tell your wife that your screwing us instead of her".
Normally I let what fans bark out roll off but I had to give that fan props for that one. One of the best lines I've ever heard!!

[JRutledge]

I am very leery to pay too much attention to someone that is not an official. Even if the AD thinks something, that does not make it right. Even if that AD had officiating experience, that does not mean you took too much from the coach. I sometimes wonder why an assignor would even tell you something the AD said. It was not like you did something unprofessional or that was not very subjective. If the assignor has much of an issue, he could come out and see you work and make that determination on his own.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

... It bothers me quite a bit that the assignor assumed the AD was right.

Originally Posted by CountTheBasket

He didn't, he claimed it was "hear say" in the email. Said he requested video, and also this particular school requests a clock operator (in this case a veteran official who had to have his knees done so is out of service this year) so he asked for his feedback which he gave to me; I just didn't want to make the OP longer than it already was.

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Since I work for your assignor also, I was going to say I doubt he just took the AD's word for it. I was going to suggest that maybe he spoke with your partners also. Your post definitely clears that up in way consistent with my experiences with our assignor.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Since I work for your assignor also, I was going to say I doubt he just took the AD's word for it. I was going to suggest that maybe he spoke with your partners also. Your post definitely clears that up in way consistent with my experiences with our assignor.

You would be surprised. Sometimes these guys in my experience are more concerned with keeping their jobs, then supporting the officials. And I get that thinking on many levels, but many assignors do not have the official's best interest at heart when they take these complaints. If you are not happy about the job we are doing, hire someone else or keep us away from that school. But do not try to micro manage a situation when you may not know the entire story, other than talking to an AD.

I do get it if you feel the official did not do their job, but why tell the official what the AD said? All that does is bring the wrong kind of thinking about that AD and that school to the official.

And I am speaking also from having a recent conversation with an assignor who came to me about a coach that was by all accounts an a-hole (said by both my partners long before I knew for myself).

Peace

[letemplay]

I wouldn't worry about it too much. It's a much higher % the AD is a former coach than a former official...so there ya go

[biggravy]

It's all been said, but in the second game... the coach that jumps up and slaps the floor with both hands that is an automatic T.

[Lcubed48]

Originally Posted by CountTheBasket

He didn't, he claimed it was "hear say" in the email. Said he requested video, and also this particular school requests a clock operator (in this case a veteran official who had to have his knees done so is out of service this year) so he asked for his feedback which he gave to me; I just didn't want to make the OP longer than it already was.

I, also, work for your assignor. I recently had a situation in a game that got questioned. I have no problem with his work behind the scene. He did his due diligence. And, the following week he put in a game showed me that I still had his trust.

PS - PM me if you want to discuss either situation further.