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Old Wed Jan 29, 2014, 10:39am
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Coaches and players are going to say things "in the heat of the moment". We've all seen/heard it before. We're taught to ignore statements, which is what this coach made. I don't know about PA rules, but something tells me this coach wouldn't be able to blackball the official from working any games in that league. So who cares about what he said?

Looks like a case of an official that's too thin-skinned. The coach clearly did not intend to bump him, and the official should have just ignored the coach's statement and left the court.
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Old Wed Jan 29, 2014, 10:55am
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Coaches and players are going to say things "in the heat of the moment". We've all seen/heard it before. We're taught to ignore statements, which is what this coach made. I don't know about PA rules, but something tells me this coach wouldn't be able to blackball the official from working any games in that league. So who cares about what he said?

Looks like a case of an official that's too thin-skinned. The coach clearly did not intend to bump him, and the official should have just ignored the coach's statement and left the court.
Do you know what was said? A threat "You'll never..." is not just a statement that can be ignored. Calling an official thin skinned for reacting to that is part of the sportsmanship problem, not the solution.
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Old Wed Jan 29, 2014, 10:59am
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Do you know what was said? A threat "You'll never..." is not just a statement that can be ignored. Calling an official thin skinned for reacting to that is part of the sportsmanship, not the solution.
It's not like the coach threatened the official physically. Like I said, unless coaches in PA really can get an official blackballed by the league, then it's more of an emtpy-threat than anything. And why make a big deal about an empty-threat?

I didn't see the whole game, so the context may be totally different than what I know, but if I put myself in the video I would have just ran off the court and forgot about the entire ordeal. Just another coach complaining about a call/no-call. And in that case, I'd go into the locker room and ask my partners if something was missed.
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It's not like the coach threatened the official physically. Like I said, unless coaches in PA really can get an official blackballed by the league, then it's more of an emtpy-threat than anything. And why make a big deal about an empty-threat?

I didn't see the whole game, so the context may be totally different than what I know, but if I put myself in the video I would have just ran off the court and forgot about the entire ordeal. Just another coach complaining about a call/no-call. And in that case, I'd go into the locker room and ask my partners if something was missed.
Around here, and everywhere I have worked, if a coach makes this threat, it's a flagrant T. It doesn't matter how empty that threat is. As far as I know, it's the same for most locations.

That said, I'm not going to be at the table after a game anyway. I know too many officials that, for whatever reason, like to go shake hands with the table crew after the game.
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Around here, and everywhere I have worked, if a coach makes this threat, it's a flagrant T. It doesn't matter how empty that threat is. As far as I know, it's the same for most locations.

That said, I'm not going to be at the table after a game anyway. I know too many officials that, for whatever reason, like to go shake hands with the table crew after the game.
Really? A flagrant T? That seems a bit excessive, but okay.

I've never heard anything like that said, and maybe this is why.
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Around here, and everywhere I have worked, if a coach makes this threat, it's a flagrant T. It doesn't matter how empty that threat is. As far as I know, it's the same for most locations.

That said, I'm not going to be at the table after a game anyway. I know too many officials that, for whatever reason, like to go shake hands with the table crew after the game.
How would you have delt with this? Would you have blown you whistle and given him a post game ejection?

a la baseball?

Not being sarcastic, I am legitimately asking how your area would handle it.
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Incidental contact. The coach to me is walking around the official as the official is backing up and away from the table. That being said, get out of dodge after the final whistle. Having to go to the table is ridiculous.
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I seriously doubt that there was any such policy in that area, based on the fact that the two partners were standing over by the door waiting for this official. They were headed off and had to stop and wait.

As far as the "bump"...good grief. The official had as mush to do with that contact as the coach did.
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How would you have delt with this? Would you have blown you whistle and given him a post game ejection?

a la baseball?

Not being sarcastic, I am legitimately asking how your area would handle it.
Something like that. It's all in the paperwork at this point. Have the scorer mark it, and be sure to report it. The second step is more important than the first.

Again, none of this happens if the official gets off the court.
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Old Wed Jan 29, 2014, 12:53pm
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How would you have delt with this? Would you have blown you whistle and given him a post game ejection?

a la baseball?

Not being sarcastic, I am legitimately asking how your area would handle it.
If there was really a bump, or if the comments rose to that level, yes. At least report it to the table.
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