Never saw this before

JRutledge · #1 (**permalink**) Sat Jan 18, 2014, 11:24pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref

For the record: Guys can say "I wouldn't have seen the coach" if they want, but that was not the point of the discussion. They did see her. That is a given, and it wasn't because they lingered after the game. My question was what if you did see her. Imagine that you literally bumped into her on your way out and her way in if you must, but she was there and very much visible so that is where the discussion begins.

Another twist. Around here, game assignment are near %100 girl/boy doubleheaders. It is not unheard of for the officials to not leave the gym at all between games.

Even if they did, so. Why would you want to even go there? Why would you even want to trouble, trouble? I see a lot of things I do not penalize immeditely. It is not hard to do.

And one more reasons I am glad I live in a state that has common sense.

Peace

SCalScoreKeeper · #2 (**permalink**) Sat Jan 18, 2014, 11:36pm

This is a state association issue-here if a coach is ejected they are to immediately leave the gym and not allowed to have contact with their team until they leave said gym.Said coach is also barred from coaching for 1 game.

Common Question-Does this rule apply to a varsity head coach who gets ejected while sitting on the JV bench and serving as an assistant? Yes-the varsity head coach must serve his JV suspension before he can coach varsity again.Penalty is immediate forfeiture of the contest for not leaving the gym or being in attendance while suspended from coaching.

asdf · #3 (**permalink**) Sat Jan 18, 2014, 11:43pm

We get a bad rap enough as it its without going out and earning said bad rap.

Nevadaref · #4 (**permalink**) Sun Jan 19, 2014, 05:00am

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Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

This is a state association issue-here if a coach is ejected they are to immediately leave the gym and not allowed to have contact with their team until they leave said gym.Said coach is also barred from coaching for 1 game.

Common Question-Does this rule apply to a varsity head coach who gets ejected while sitting on the JV bench and serving as an assistant? Yes-the varsity head coach must serve his JV suspension before he can coach varsity again.Penalty is immediate forfeiture of the contest for not leaving the gym or being in attendance while suspended from coaching.

Please post documentation of that policy as well as if it is only particular to your local league or Section or if it for the entire CIF.

just another ref · #5 (**permalink**) Sun Jan 19, 2014, 12:02am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

Even if they did, so. Why would you want to even go there? Why would you even want to trouble, trouble?

I wouldn't, but they did, and it was very interesting to watch.

JRutledge · #6 (**permalink**) Sun Jan 19, 2014, 12:19am

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Originally Posted by just another ref

I wouldn't, but they did, and it was very interesting to watch.

OK, they did. So what.

And my state does not make a habit of playing this silly double headers and expecting the officials to do both. There are enough officials around to do two games at a site. And it is hard IMO to dedicate your full energy when you have to split up games (and genders) in the same night for the same officials. That to me contributed to this issue you are talking about IMO.

Peace

just another ref · #7 (**permalink**) Sun Jan 19, 2014, 12:27am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

And my state does not make a habit of playing this silly double headers and expecting the officials to do both. There are enough officials around to do two games at a site. And it is hard IMO to dedicate your full energy when you have to split up games (and genders) in the same night for the same officials. That to me contributed to this issue you are talking about IMO.

Peace

How?

JRutledge · #8 (**permalink**) Sun Jan 19, 2014, 12:28am

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Originally Posted by just another ref

How?

Didn't you say the official usually hang around because they are working another game? There you go.

Peace

just another ref · #9 (**permalink**) Sun Jan 19, 2014, 12:41am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

Didn't you say the official usually hang around because they are working another game? There you go.

Peace

I said sometimes they never leave at all. In this case, the game ended on the opposite end of the gym from their exit. They headed straight out, skirted around the celebrating mob near the division line and were about to turn the corner of the bleachers when I saw them stop and realized what the deal was. Did they sprint to the exit? No, but I don't either. I see some that do.

JRutledge · #10 (**permalink**) Sun Jan 19, 2014, 01:17am

Whatever the ultimate reason, I do not see T'ing up a coach that first should not be seen in the first place because the officials are off the court immediately. And secondly I do not see why a coach being on the court after the game is any of our concern. If it is that much of a concern, here we could post that in the report that we file as apart of the story about the ejection. I would let the state handle it from there. Otherwise I would not be giving a T for simply being on the court after the game is clearly over. Yes our jurisdiction is still present, but for me and most officials I know, we do not spend much time trying to find anything on the court after the game is over. If that is how you want to roll, be my guest.

Peace