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Old Sat Jan 18, 2014, 08:42pm
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I would not be walking out, I'd be running out, not even looking back. Almost sounds as if the official salivated over giving the coach one more tech.
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Old Sat Jan 18, 2014, 09:41pm
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We need a "LIKE" button, so many of you guys are right, don't look for trouble. Can you give a coach a 3rd T?
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Old Sat Jan 18, 2014, 10:42pm
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Can you give a coach a 3rd T?
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Old Sat Jan 18, 2014, 10:54pm
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I am probably gone too. Game over I am in the locker room.

In our state we have Special Reports we have to file every time there is an ejection that we are involved in directly. That is the only thing I might be doing is putting this in the report. I just seriously doubt I would even know the coach was there.

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Old Sat Jan 18, 2014, 11:20pm
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For the record: Guys can say "I wouldn't have seen the coach" if they want, but that was not the point of the discussion. They did see her. That is a given, and it wasn't because they lingered after the game. My question was what if you did see her. Imagine that you literally bumped into her on your way out and her way in if you must, but she was there and very much visible so that is where the discussion begins.

Another twist. Around here, game assignment are near %100 girl/boy doubleheaders. It is not unheard of for the officials to not leave the gym at all between games.
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Old Sat Jan 18, 2014, 11:24pm
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For the record: Guys can say "I wouldn't have seen the coach" if they want, but that was not the point of the discussion. They did see her. That is a given, and it wasn't because they lingered after the game. My question was what if you did see her. Imagine that you literally bumped into her on your way out and her way in if you must, but she was there and very much visible so that is where the discussion begins.

Another twist. Around here, game assignment are near %100 girl/boy doubleheaders. It is not unheard of for the officials to not leave the gym at all between games.
Even if they did, so. Why would you want to even go there? Why would you even want to trouble, trouble? I see a lot of things I do not penalize immeditely. It is not hard to do.

And one more reasons I am glad I live in a state that has common sense.

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Old Sat Jan 18, 2014, 11:36pm
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This is a state association issue-here if a coach is ejected they are to immediately leave the gym and not allowed to have contact with their team until they leave said gym.Said coach is also barred from coaching for 1 game.

Common Question-Does this rule apply to a varsity head coach who gets ejected while sitting on the JV bench and serving as an assistant? Yes-the varsity head coach must serve his JV suspension before he can coach varsity again.Penalty is immediate forfeiture of the contest for not leaving the gym or being in attendance while suspended from coaching.
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Old Sun Jan 19, 2014, 12:02am
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Even if they did, so. Why would you want to even go there? Why would you even want to trouble, trouble?
I wouldn't, but they did, and it was very interesting to watch.
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Old Sat Jan 18, 2014, 11:34pm
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For the record: Guys can say "I wouldn't have seen the coach" if they want, but that was not the point of the discussion. They did see her. That is a given, and it wasn't because they lingered after the game. My question was what if you did see her. Imagine that you literally bumped into her on your way out and her way in if you must, but she was there and very much visible so that is where the discussion begins.

Another twist. Around here, game assignment are near %100 girl/boy doubleheaders. It is not unheard of for the officials to not leave the gym at all between games.
The coach would freakin' moonwalk in front of me for all I care...short of the coach actually doing something unsporting, I'm not giving a T for what you presented in your original post.
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Old Sun Jan 19, 2014, 01:56am
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For the record: Guys can say "I wouldn't have seen the coach" if they want, but that was not the point of the discussion. They did see her. That is a given, and it wasn't because they lingered after the game. My question was what if you did see her. Imagine that you literally bumped into her on your way out and her way in if you must, but she was there and very much visible so that is where the discussion begins.

Another twist. Around here, game assignment are near %100 girl/boy doubleheaders. It is not unheard of for the officials to not leave the gym at all between games.
I still wouldn't see her.

And if I did, the penalty would not be a T. If a coach who has been ejected is in the gym at some later point before my jurisdiction is over, I'd put it in the ejection report and let the state deal with it. If I heard correctly, they have forfeited games in such cases....not necessarily a post game celebration like this but before the game ended.
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Old Sun Jan 19, 2014, 10:33am
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For the record: Guys can say "I wouldn't have seen the coach" if they want, but that was not the point of the discussion. They did see her. That is a given, and it wasn't because they lingered after the game. My question was what if you did see her. Imagine that you literally bumped into her on your way out and her way in if you must, but she was there and very much visible so that is where the discussion begins.

Another twist. Around here, game assignment are near %100 girl/boy doubleheaders. It is not unheard of for the officials to not leave the gym at all between games.

Even if I looked right at the coach, I didn't see her! Why go looking for trouble when it can be avoided. This seems to me that these guys were just trying to say I'm I charge here, and throw their power around.
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Old Sun Jan 19, 2014, 10:35am
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I'm not sure how I'd see her there celebrating when I'm jogging off the floor.
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Old Sun Jan 19, 2014, 11:19am
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For the record: Guys can say "I wouldn't have seen the coach" if they want, but that was not the point of the discussion. They did see her. That is a given, and it wasn't because they lingered after the game. My question was what if you did see her. Imagine that you literally bumped into her on your way out and her way in if you must, but she was there and very much visible so that is where the discussion begins.

Another twist. Around here, game assignment are near %100 girl/boy doubleheaders. It is not unheard of for the officials to not leave the gym at all between games.
Honestly, unless I trip over her on my way off the court, I'm not doing anything.
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Old Sun Jan 19, 2014, 11:24am
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Honestly, unless I trip over her on my way off the court, I'm not doing anything.
And not leaving the court is a mistake. When I lived in a G/B DH state, we *always* left the floor, got a drink, took a few minutes, then came back out as if it's a new day / new game.
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Old Sun Jan 19, 2014, 12:26pm
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Honestly, unless I trip over her on my way off the court, I'm not doing anything.
Only way I see her, and penalize her, is if she cuts us off on the way out the door. Other than that, I'm gone. If someone were to complain to the conference or supervisor, I would just be honest and say the game was over and I saw nothing wrong with her actions.

I'm not forfeiting (the proper penalty, not a T) a game after the final buzzer.
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