throw in violation?

[wanja]

College game. Team B scores. A2 steps out of bounds along endline followed by A1 stepping out of bounds with ball along endline, A1 passes ball to A2 while both remain out of bounds. Partner later comments that a throw-in violation had occurred since both players were out of bounds before the throw-in started and during the throw-in.

Both NCAA men (7-4-6b) and NFHS (7-5-7) rules allow the privilege of passing to a teammate out of bounds after a score. I can find no rule or case citation that indicates that the privilege is not granted if both players are out of bounds before the start of the throw in and during the throw-in.

Any clarifications or citations?

[APG]

That is not a violation under NFHS, NCAA or NBA rule sets.

NFHS

9-2
ART. 11

No teammate of the thrower shall be out of bounds after a designated-spot throw-in begins.

PENALTY: (Section 2) The ball becomes dead when the violation or technical foul occurs. Following a violation, the ball is awarded to the opponents for a throw-in at the original throw-in spot.

NCAA
9-5
Art. 2. No player other than the thrower-in shall:
a. Perform the throw-in or be out of bounds after a designated-spot throw-in begins.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by wanja

College game. Team B scores. A2 steps out of bounds along endline followed by A1 stepping out of bounds with ball along endline, A1 passes ball to A2 while both remain out of bounds. Partner later comments that a throw-in violation had occurred since both players were out of bounds before the throw-in started and during the throw-in.

Both NCAA men (7-4-6b) and NFHS (7-5-7) rules allow the privilege of passing to a teammate out of bounds after a score. I can find no rule or case citation that indicates that the privilege is not granted if both players are out of bounds before the start of the throw in and during the throw-in.

Any clarifications or citations?

The clarification is that your partner is incorrect.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

The clarification is that your partner is incorrect.

Surprised that a college official would miss this.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Surprised that a college official would miss this.

Some college officials don't find the rule book of much use after they have "made it".

[tophat67]

Originally Posted by APG

That is not a violation under NFHS, NCAA or NBA rule sets.

NFHS

9-2
ART. 11

No teammate of the thrower shall be out of bounds after a designated-spot throw-in begins.

PENALTY: (Section 2) The ball becomes dead when the violation or technical foul occurs. Following a violation, the ball is awarded to the opponents for a throw-in at the original throw-in spot.

NCAA
9-5
Art. 2. No player other than the thrower-in shall:
a. Perform the throw-in or be out of bounds after a designated-spot throw-in begins.

So what do you have if once player A1 throws the ball to A2 who is also out of bounds, but A1 stays out of bounds and does not come back in bounds?

[CountTheBasket]

Originally Posted by tophat67

So what do you have if once player A1 throws the ball to A2 who is also out of bounds, but A1 stays out of bounds and does not come back in bounds?

If A1 is able to throw the ball to A2 out of bounds it is not a spot throw in.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by tophat67

So what do you have if once player A1 throws the ball to A2 who is also out of bounds, but A1 stays out of bounds and does not come back in bounds?

A continuation of the 5-second count.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by tophat67

So what do you have if once player A1 throws the ball to A2 who is also out of bounds, but A1 stays out of bounds and does not come back in bounds?

Nothing.