Fun with Assistant Coaches

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by deecee

It's his opinion on the call, and depending on how loud or how big a scene I may. But I generally like to give the HC first crack to address his bench. He won't get to share his opinion a second time that's for sure.

Hmmmm...ok.

Like Adam said, if they make that comment to me as I run by, from their seat, I will make sure the HC deals with them. But if he is standing and yelling it at me as I am reporting (like ballgame99 posted) then we are going straight to the other end to shoot two. No warnings needed for that, imo.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Hmmmm...ok.

Like Adam said, if they make that comment to me as I run by, from their seat, I will make sure the HC deals with them. But if he is standing and yelling it at me as I am reporting (like ballgame99 posted) then we are going straight to the other end to shoot two. No warnings needed for that, imo.

Standing, sittiing. I care more about how loud, and tone and other body language cues (like arms out wide or jumping around like a fool). A coach can be sitting and get a T from me, and he can be jumping like an idiot and not saying anything and get a T. But we each have different levels of tolerance.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by deecee

Standing, sittiing. I care more about how loud, and tone and other body language cues (like arms out wide or jumping around like a fool). A coach can be sitting and get a T from me, and he can be jumping like an idiot and not saying anything and get a T. But we each have different levels of tolerance.

I'm just saying there's no way an AC gets to stand and yell at me and only get a warning.

[Ref16]

Originally Posted by Adam

I'm just saying there's no way an AC gets to stand and yell at me and only get a warning.

100% agree on this!!!

[loners4me]

I rang up a VB coach during the JV game last night. He was assisting the JV coach. I told him he'd get his chance next game but not now. He gave me the "go to hell" wave and thats all I needed.

He wouldnt look at me the rest of the game. He caught a loose ball and when I headed to him to retrieve ball he just rolled it the other way.

He just about got tossed

[BillyMac]

Like little children, assistant coaches should be seen, and not heard.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by loners4me

I rang up a VB coach during the JV game last night. He was assisting the JV coach. I told him he'd get his chance next game but not now. He gave me the "go to hell" wave and thats all I needed.

He wouldnt look at me the rest of the game. He caught a loose ball and when I headed to him to retrieve ball he just rolled it the other way.

He just about got tossed

I get the feeling from some varsity coaches feel they are above jv officials, and can therefore do or say whatever they like. That makes me give them a shorter leash than I normally would.

Originally Posted by loners4me

He caught a loose ball and when I headed to him to retrieve ball he just rolled it the other way.

He just about got tossed

Toss him.

This same situation happened to me two weeks ago. Head coach just got a T. Kid shooting 2 for the T, bricks the first FT hard. Ball bounces straight to this coach. As I'm headed toward him to collect the ball he tosses it across the court to my partner. Shoulda ran him but didn't. I will next time, and I hope you do as well.

[Ref16]

Originally Posted by loners4me

I rang up a VB coach during the JV game last night. He was assisting the JV coach. I told him he'd get his chance next game but not now. He gave me the "go to hell" wave and thats all I needed.

He wouldnt look at me the rest of the game. He caught a loose ball and when I headed to him to retrieve ball he just rolled it the other way.

He just about got tossed

I did something similiar when I first started officiating back in '03...my first year I stuck the varsity boys coach who was the assistant jv coach and guess what-over the past 9 years as a varsity referee I have not had one single issue out of him! Sure, he has asked for an explanation on a few calls over the years, but it has always been done in the proper and respectful way.

Maybe that T will earn you some respect in the future!!!

[Ref16]

Originally Posted by loners4me

I rang up a VB coach during the JV game last night. He was assisting the JV coach. I told him he'd get his chance next game but not now. He gave me the "go to hell" wave and thats all I needed.

He wouldnt look at me the rest of the game. He caught a loose ball and when I headed to him to retrieve ball he just rolled it the other way.

He just about got tossed

If this happened in a varsity game, would you have responded differently?

I try to be patient and I understand the competitive nature of the game for both coaches and players, but anytime I am in that situation which you described and a coach reacts the way he did-it is time to go ahead toss him from the gym. There is no place for that on the high school level, or any other level for that matter!

Bottom line-blatant disrespect or an attempt to show up either of my partners or myself will result in immediate penalty! PERIOD!!

[RSturgell]

Ok, so what do you do when the head varsity coach is sitting across the floor from the JV team. Varsity coach blurts out "That's terrible! You cannot make that call" to one of my partners. Is he just a fan at that time? I looked at him an shook my head and he didnt say anything else, but what can we really do?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by loners4me

I rang up a VB coach during the JV game last night. He was assisting the JV coach. I told him he'd get his chance next game but not now. He gave me the "go to hell" wave and thats all I needed.

He wouldnt look at me the rest of the game. He caught a loose ball and when I headed to him to retrieve ball he just rolled it the other way.

He just about got tossed

I would have tossed him without a second thought.
I hope you didn't chase the ball.

[bainsey]

I had an AC yesterday that couldn't have been more than 20. I didn't hear anything from him, but my partner did, and let him and me know he wasn't going to hear any more. I kept it in the back of my mind.

Cut to the second half, this team has a frontcourt endline throw-in. I'm the T, near his bench. Says the AC to his big forward, who was waiting for the TI in the lane, "watch the three seconds!" I cringed, waited for the next dead ball, and leaned into to him.

"Sir, there's no three-second violation on a throw-in."

Normally, I don't talk to ACs, but who else is going to tell him?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by loners4me

I rang up a VB coach during the JV game last night. He was assisting the JV coach. I told him he'd get his chance next game but not now. He gave me the "go to hell" wave and thats all I needed.

He wouldnt look at me the rest of the game. He caught a loose ball and when I headed to him to retrieve ball he just rolled it the other way.

He just about got tossed

That's an easy toss. Shocked you didn't.

[biggravy]

Originally Posted by loners4me

I rang up a VB coach during the JV game last night. He was assisting the JV coach. I told him he'd get his chance next game but not now. He gave me the "go to hell" wave and thats all I needed.

He wouldnt look at me the rest of the game. He caught a loose ball and when I headed to him to retrieve ball he just rolled it the other way.

He just about got tossed

Here he would have gotten to go get his V team ready early. Buh-bye.