Coach vs Partner

[JetMetFan]

FWIW, the NFHS Officials' Manual reads (Warnings for behavior) are not documented in the scorebook (2.5.3.B6).

Neither NCAA rule book mentions writing warnings in the scorebook (i.e., that officials should or shoudn't do it).

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

FWIW, the NFHS Officials' Manual reads (Warnings for behavior) are not documented in the scorebook (2.5.3.B6).

Neither NCAA rule book mentions writing warnings in the scorebook (i.e., that officials should or shoudn't do it).

Great citation for areas which follow NFHS mechanics.

For behavior that is borderline, a quick verbal warning to alert the player or coach is okay and good communication, but probably won't prove helpful. However, I will stick with my earlier post and disagree with the need for a formal warning as frequently behavior which has reached that point warrants a T and sadly too many officials fail to charge one. Seems that they seek some remedy which doesn't carry a penalty. News flash: unless a poorly behaving individual is penalized, the undesired action usually won't stop. Why several officials seem afraid to penalize is a mystery to me and only causes problems later or for other officials. We are our own worst enemy sometimes.

The first T is the warning that the behavior is unacceptable. It carries a penalty of two FTs (and possession at the HS level). Failure to heed it will result in a stiffer penalty--two more FTs and a disqualification comes with the second T. The rules writers created the two T system for a reason (btw my very veteran friends tell me that it was three way back when!).

I guess this is reflective of my soccer referee training, but I look at this as a first yellow card and then a second yellow card (warrants a red). Of course, for behavior which is extreme in the first instance soccer referees may issue a red card immediately without first giving a yellow just a basketball has flagrant fouls (HS level).

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Great citation for areas which follow NFHS mechanics.

For behavior that is borderline, a quick verbal warning to alert the player or coach is okay and good communication, but probably won't prove helpful. However, I will stick with my earlier post and disagree with the need for a formal warning as frequently behavior which has reached that point warrants a T and sadly too many officials fail to charge one. Seems that they seek some remedy which doesn't carry a penalty. News flash: unless a poorly behaving individual is penalized, the undesired action usually won't stop. Why several officials seem afraid to penalize is a mystery to me and only causes problems later or for other officials. We are our own worst enemy sometimes.

The first T is the warning that the behavior is unacceptable. It carries a penalty of two FTs (and possession at the HS level). Failure to heed it will result in a stiffer penalty--two more FTs and a disqualification comes with the second T. The rules writers created the two T system for a reason (btw my very veteran friends tell me that it was three way back when!).

I guess this is reflective of my soccer referee training, but I look at this as a first yellow card and then a second yellow card (warrants a red). Of course, for behavior which is extreme in the first instance soccer referees may issue a red card immediately without first giving a yellow just a basketball has flagrant fouls (HS level).

IOW:

"How do you say 'freeze'?"

"Just shoot."