How to correct poor coaching behavior?

[Sharpshooternes]

BigT and I have been talking about ways to respond to difficult coaches. Perhaps we could get people to give a difficult scenario that they have had and a good response that you could practice or role play before hand with a buddy so that it just comes second nature in a game situation. You veterans and your experimentation can be very beneficial for us rookies. An example would be "look at the foul count. It is 8 to 1." Response insert here.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

An example would be "look at the foul count. It is 8 to 1." Response insert here.

"Let me change that for you, coach." Tweet. "Now it's 9 to 1."

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

"Let me change that for you, coach." Tweet. "Now it's 9 to 1."

Eh, I'd rather see the official ignore this statement the first time, and address it the second time. Something like "We are not discussing the foul count coach" would do the trick. After that, whack.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Eh, I'd rather see the official ignore this statement the first time, and address it the second time. Something like "We are not discussing the foul count coach" would do the trick. After that, whack.

Insert humor plug-in.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

... An example would be "look at the foul count. It is 8 to 1." Response insert here.

I believe last year at the NCAA-Men's level that was supposed to almost be an automatic T.

Dr. Jake Bell, who has supervised the Atlantic Sun for years, and more recently took over the SEC, says he expects his officials to give this standard response, "Coach, we are aware". (heard this in camp from him, I do not work in the A-Sun or SEC )

I once told an a-hole type coach, "that's not our fault".

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I believe last year at the NCAA-Men's level that was supposed to almost be an automatic T.

Dr. Jake Bell, who has supervised the Atlantic Sun for years, and more recently took over the SEC, says he expects his officials to give this standard response, "Coach, we are aware". (heard this in camp from him, I do not work in the A-Sun or SEC )

I once told an a-hole type coach, "that's not our fault".

Maybe that was a supervisor driven thing, which I would be OK with. But I do not recall everyone taking that stance last year. Then again I was not working D1 either.

Peace

[deecee]

In response to the foul count statement, I have a simple response. I don't care how many team fouls they have. Its not my job to call fouls in an even number.

As to the OP, it sounds like you let it get out of hand. General rule of thumb. Don't respond to comments unless you need to fix a behavior. I would have t'd that coach at halftime, in the hallway.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by deecee

In response to the foul count statement, I have a simple response. I don't care how many team fouls they have. Its not my job to call fouls in an even number.

As to the OP, it sounds like you let it get out of hand. General rule of thumb. Don't respond to comments unless you need to fix a behavior. I would have t'd that coach at halftime, in the hallway.

I just tell them, "Stop fouling" and leave it at that. If they want to be a smart ass, I can be one too. And that is actually a good way to make the point you do not care and not your job. At some point we have to stop worrying about how coaches take everything. If they want the foul count to be different, they are going to have to find another scapegoat.

Peace

[BatteryPowered]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I just tell them, "Stop fouling" and leave it at that. If they want to be a smart ass, I can be one too. And that is actually a good way to make the point you do not care and not your job. At some point we have to stop worrying about how coaches take everything. If they want the foul count to be different, they are going to have to find another scapegoat.

Peace

I said that by accident one time...really without thinking (guess my inner self just took over). I thought the coach was going to fall down he laughed so hard. After a couple of times back down the floor we had a dead ball and he told me he liked my attitude. The coach was known to be somewhat of a jerk...we got along beautifully after that and I never had a problem with him again.

Sometimes you just never know...

[egj13]

When I worked in my last state last year we RARELY had a coach get to the point of deserving a "T". When a coach said something in that area then you could assume that it was warranted. There were 1 or 2 exceptions out of the ~80 teams we covered but those guys watched more games from the showers than the bench. It was something we covered in our study groups...how to manage coaches. If you let the coach go wild, then the fans start in and then the players feed off of it. Our association took very little from coaches and everyone stayed happy.

Fast forward to my new state where EVERY coach I have had to this point has deserved a "T" at some point in the game. I mean guys stopming floors, slapping bleachers, "3 seconds, Travel, and 1, oh come one, etc" from tip off to final horn. I have whacked 5 coaches to this point and had to toss one and people ask me why my fuse is so short. All partners tell me is "I don't even hear them anymore, I don't care what their opinion is."

What I am trying to get at is if a coach has a reputation for being an jerk it is probably because mots officials are giving him the ability to be a jerk. He clearly has been allowed to act that way because I assume if he got whacked a few games in a row he would simmer down.

[Adam]

When a coach brings up the foul count, I ignore the first one. If he says it again, I shut it down quickly with, "Coach, we aren't going to talk about the foul count."