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Old Wed Jan 08, 2014, 09:16pm
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Warn, then Whack! You can't let it continue.

"Coach, I've heard enough."

For me, handling coaches came with experience and maturity.

You promote what you allow.
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Old Wed Jan 08, 2014, 09:34pm
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Yeah, put the onus on them to control their behavior. Early.

If they don't, they'll pay the price for it. The Iowa coach was tossed and suspended for a game by the Big Ten. He will miss his own bobblehead night because he acted like a child.
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Old Wed Jan 08, 2014, 09:42pm
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Responses to coaches

BigT and I have been talking about ways to respond to difficult coaches. Perhaps we could get people to give a difficult scenario that they have had and a good response that you could practice or role play before hand with a buddy so that it just comes second nature in a game situation. You veterans and your experimentation can be very beneficial for us rookies. An example would be "look at the foul count. It is 8 to 1." Response insert here.
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Old Wed Jan 08, 2014, 09:52pm
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An example would be "look at the foul count. It is 8 to 1." Response insert here.
"Let me change that for you, coach." Tweet. "Now it's 9 to 1."
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Old Wed Jan 08, 2014, 10:14pm
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"Let me change that for you, coach." Tweet. "Now it's 9 to 1."
Eh, I'd rather see the official ignore this statement the first time, and address it the second time. Something like "We are not discussing the foul count coach" would do the trick. After that, whack.
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Old Wed Jan 08, 2014, 11:18pm
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Eh, I'd rather see the official ignore this statement the first time, and address it the second time. Something like "We are not discussing the foul count coach" would do the trick. After that, whack.
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Old Wed Jan 08, 2014, 10:17pm
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... An example would be "look at the foul count. It is 8 to 1." Response insert here.
I believe last year at the NCAA-Men's level that was supposed to almost be an automatic T.

Dr. Jake Bell, who has supervised the Atlantic Sun for years, and more recently took over the SEC, says he expects his officials to give this standard response, "Coach, we are aware". (heard this in camp from him, I do not work in the A-Sun or SEC )

I once told an a-hole type coach, "that's not our fault".
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Old Wed Jan 08, 2014, 10:46pm
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I believe last year at the NCAA-Men's level that was supposed to almost be an automatic T.

Dr. Jake Bell, who has supervised the Atlantic Sun for years, and more recently took over the SEC, says he expects his officials to give this standard response, "Coach, we are aware". (heard this in camp from him, I do not work in the A-Sun or SEC )

I once told an a-hole type coach, "that's not our fault".
Maybe that was a supervisor driven thing, which I would be OK with. But I do not recall everyone taking that stance last year. Then again I was not working D1 either.

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Old Wed Jan 08, 2014, 10:53pm
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In response to the foul count statement, I have a simple response. I don't care how many team fouls they have. Its not my job to call fouls in an even number.

As to the OP, it sounds like you let it get out of hand. General rule of thumb. Don't respond to comments unless you need to fix a behavior. I would have t'd that coach at halftime, in the hallway.
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Old Wed Jan 08, 2014, 10:59pm
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In response to the foul count statement, I have a simple response. I don't care how many team fouls they have. Its not my job to call fouls in an even number.

As to the OP, it sounds like you let it get out of hand. General rule of thumb. Don't respond to comments unless you need to fix a behavior. I would have t'd that coach at halftime, in the hallway.
I just tell them, "Stop fouling" and leave it at that. If they want to be a smart ass, I can be one too. And that is actually a good way to make the point you do not care and not your job. At some point we have to stop worrying about how coaches take everything. If they want the foul count to be different, they are going to have to find another scapegoat.

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Old Thu Jan 09, 2014, 09:10am
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I just tell them, "Stop fouling" and leave it at that. If they want to be a smart ass, I can be one too. And that is actually a good way to make the point you do not care and not your job. At some point we have to stop worrying about how coaches take everything. If they want the foul count to be different, they are going to have to find another scapegoat.

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I said that by accident one time...really without thinking (guess my inner self just took over). I thought the coach was going to fall down he laughed so hard. After a couple of times back down the floor we had a dead ball and he told me he liked my attitude. The coach was known to be somewhat of a jerk...we got along beautifully after that and I never had a problem with him again.

Sometimes you just never know...
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Old Wed Jan 08, 2014, 11:03pm
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When a coach brings up the foul count, I ignore the first one. If he says it again, I shut it down quickly with, "Coach, we aren't going to talk about the foul count."
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Old Wed Jan 08, 2014, 09:43pm
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The key is to penalize it and that will put a stop to it. You gave the coach enough leeway during the FTs. When he barked across the court at halftime was the proper time to whack. It would most likely have prevented the hallway situation, which is an obvious whack!
I'm disturbed that your crew passed on penalizing these instances and then T'd the opposing coach. How do you think that looks?
You need to take care of business with the unsporting behavior. If you allow one coach to misbehave the other will think that he can too.

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