You Decide - Off White? (video)

[xyrph]

You decide - off white?

[Adam]

I have to ask. Are you planning on discussing any of these videos you're posting?

[OKREF]

It should be whites ball. 13 travels when she drives

[MathReferee]

Travel. And the clock is still running. I guess that is what happens when you do not use the stop clock mechanic?

[ballgame99]

Clearly a travel first, also appears to be a foul on white with a hold. Past that it impossible to know who its out on. And I find it funny that whoever is chuckling thinks its so obvious. Maybe they are chuckling because of the missed travel? From the angle and velocity it goes out of bounds it looks entirely plausible that it went off white's knee.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

Clearly a travel first, but past that it impossible to know. And I find it funny that whoever is chuckling thinks its so obvious. From the angle and velocity it goes out of bounds it looks entirely plausible that it went off white's knee.

I see it hitting 13's foot last.

[Rich]

No offense to the OP, but the two videos I saw from this game have to be the most uninteresting I've ever seen posted here.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by Rich

No offense to the OP, but the two videos I saw from this game have to be the most uninteresting I've ever seen posted here.

I can give them some leeway on the first one regarding whether or not to count the basket. Perhaps they want to educate themselves as to what the correct ruling should be. I agree that this video is pointless.

[Mark Padgett]

Here's my comment: 24 blue wearing white sleeves.

[VaTerp]

I agree these videos are pretty pointless but since I'm at the office on a slow between Holidays Friday it at least provides me something else to do. Funny that they are titled, "you decide" though as if they are some great teaching clips.

I'm guessing that this is some sort of pre-season scrimmage since the clock is running and the first video has over 11 minutes on the clock in what clearly looks like a HS game. So maybe it's a running clock scrimmage.

Originally Posted by ballgame99

Clearly a travel first, also appears to be a foul on white with a hold. Past that it impossible to know who its out on. And I find it funny that whoever is chuckling thinks its so obvious. Maybe they are chuckling because of the missed travel? From the angle and velocity it goes out of bounds it looks entirely plausible that it went off white's knee.

Agree that it's a clear and obvious travel before the start of the dribble. Disagree that it's "impossible" to know who it's out on. It's very clearly off of blue 13's foot. We've all missed those in real time but on replay its clear as day.

I don't like the L's positioning or body language at all. He's way too lackadaisical in widening from the close down position and is leaning over to see the play, which is likely why he called the OOB incorrectly.

And after missing the obvious travel it very well could have been a foul on white for a hand check. But calling that a "hold" with my assignors would be a no no.

[ballgame99]

I'll give it to you on slow-mo you can see it goes off blue's foot, but full speed that wasn't so clear.

And I'm calling it a hold, because the defender has her arm around the front of the dribbler restricting her movement. Would you call it a 'push'? 'hands'?

[Rich]

It's very rare I report a "hand check." If I can put it in any other bucket, I will.

If there's a foul here, it's 22 holding her with the left hand/arm.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by Rich

It's very rare I report a "hand check." If I can put it in any other bucket, I will.

Why is that exactly?

I don't like to start calling handchecks late in games so if they havent been called earlier then I'm putting it in another bucket.

But I wouldnt say I call them very rarely or actively look to report something else when it's clear that's what it is.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

I'll give it to you on slow-mo you can see it goes off blue's foot, but full speed that wasn't so clear.

And I'm calling it a hold, because the defender has her arm around the front of the dribbler restricting her movement. Would you call it a 'push'? 'hands'?

After missing such a blatant travel that gave the offensive player an unfair advantage I'm not calling anything there but I'm giving a handcheck or push signal for that type of contact.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

I thought we had to choose between "white", "pearl", or some "off-white" color.

MTD, Sr.