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White 44 enters the game late in the 2nd quarter, but table fails to inform us that she's not in the book. Just before the 3rd quarter starts table tells us about the discrepancy. To begin the 3rd quarter, white 44 is on the court.
How should this be handled? Thanks in advance. |
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I Hate Administrative Technical Fouls ...
Many administrative infractions can involve the scorebook and rosters. If a team adds a name to the team roster after the ten minute time limit, then a team technical foul is charged. When such a player legally enters the court, the player’s name and uniform number must be entered into the official scorebook. In order to penalize this infraction, the offending team member must be one of the five players currently in the game. If there is no request for change, or if a team member does not become a player, thus avoiding the change, there is no penalty.
Three scorebook situations: adding a name to the team roster, changing a name or a number in the official scorebook, and/or having a player change a uniform number, are penalized with a team technical foul when they occur, after the ten minute time limit. These infractions occur when the scorer is advised to add to or change the official scorebook. The foul must be charged when it occurs and enforced when the ball next becomes live. Once the ball becomes live, after such changes have been made to the scorebook, it is too late to penalize. Remember, the ball becomes live when: on a jump ball, the tossed ball leaves the referee’s hand; on a throw-in, it is at the disposal of the thrower; and on a free throw, it is at the disposal of the free thrower. After the ten minute time limit a team is charged with a maximum of one technical foul regardless of how many infractions of the following are committed: changing a designated starter, adding a name to the team member list, requiring the scorer to change a team member’s or player’s number in the scorebook, requiring a player to change to the number in the scorebook, and/or having identical numbers on team members and/or players.
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Contrary to a prior post this is NOT an indirect technical on the HC. All team technical fouls are charged against the team, period.
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Does anybody else this is a horrible part of this rule?
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Then, hopefully there are not a lot of unscrupulous ones doing the job, but I think there are plenty who would simply not tell anybody. (hee, hee, I got away with one for the team) or (they're just kids and that's a stupid rule, anyway) For one to hold the T and use it, I don't know. Most wouldn't be that devious, and besides that, they wouldn't think of it.
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In all actuality, it needs to be penalized immediately after being discovered, not just be ignored until it suits the situation.
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I'm with JAR on this one, once it's discovered that a name has been added, penalize at that point.
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Plus if it was changed it would still allow the "heh-heh we got away with one" error to occur.
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