Dead ball contact

I agree with APG that the block/charge play needs a whistle. Why do you other guys say no-call?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I agree with APG that the block/charge play needs a whistle. Why do you other guys say no-call?

To me, A1 was going to land on the floor regardless of the slight contact with B1.

Could it be a foul? Yes. But is a no-call here the worse thing in the world? Nope.

[BayStateRef]

For me, the video is not about whether the call should have been made (you already said neither you nor your partners saw it.) It is this: what can I do the next time to be sure I see the illegal dead ball contact?

I think you and your partners were all doing their job well. Sometimes, stuff happens. The C, who might be in best position, can't see it because he is screened by other players...and has the back of the play. The lead is hustling to get ahead of the play, is properly looking back, but is not in any great position to see the off-ball contact. And you -- who might have the best view -- are watching the play up the sidelines.

Your original question, before the video was posted, was "What do you do when you feel there is a illegal dead ball contact, but you have not seen it?"

Even with this single video angle, I cannot say for sure that B2 used his forearm to send A1 to the ground. It probably happened...but the video does not "prove it."

As others have said....don't call what you didn't see. And don't sweat this one any more. You and your partners did all that is expected of you.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I agree with APG that the block/charge play needs a whistle. Why do you other guys say no-call?

I do not see displacement, I see a guy fly by a defender mostly. There might be slight contact, but nothing caused by the defender.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

I have a block on #2. The defender, with nowhere near LGP, cut under the shooters leg and caused him to flip around and to the floor. Shooter would have landed on his feet otherwise. That is a protect the shooter play if there ever was one.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I have a block on #2. The defender, with nowhere near LGP, cut under the shooters leg and caused him to flip around and to the floor. Shooter would have landed on his feet otherwise. That is a protect the shooter play if there ever was one.

Now that I've seen the play on a better video, I agree, should have had a whistle for a block on that play. Defender's torso contacted the airborne shooter's leg.

Here are some more plays from this game that I wanted to hear some opinions about.

[bob jenkins]

1) Foul on white for pushing through the screen.

2) Hard to tell from this angle, but I probably let it go

3) Black begins the motion just past the FT line -- shooting foul

4) Not a shooting foul

5) Good call -- white pushed black back, then got the rebound

6) Seems right, but tough to see. Why did the officials converse immediately after?

7) Looks like a flop by black

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

1) Foul on white for pushing through the screen.

2) Hard to tell from this angle, but I probably let it go

3) Black begins the motion just past the FT line -- shooting foul

4) Not a shooting foul

5) Good call -- white pushed black back, then got the rebound

6) Seems right, but tough to see. Why did the officials converse immediately after?

7) Looks like a flop by black

Agree on all. #2 is iffy but I would like to see another angle before I say it's wrong.

On a different note, I really don't like the pointing to the floor mechanic used in #3 and #4 when they have a non-shooting foul. I just think waving the shot off and then giving the throw-in spot looks a lot sharper.