Dead ball contact

[OKREF]

Contact after the dead ball is ignored unless it is flagrant, or if it's on an airborne shooter.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Contact after the dead ball is ignored unless it is flagrant, or if it's on an airborne shooter.

You are missing something here...............intentional contact is not ignored either.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by johnny d

You are missing something here...............intentional contact is not ignored either.

you are missing everything. Contact after the ball is dead is either ignored, Or if need be called is a _______?

I'll let you fill in the blank. But it doesn't state the contact be either intentional or flagrant. It could be what we may normally call a common foul on, but be so egregious that the whistle has to be blown. The foul however will not be common. Usually it has to do with players just not paying any attention to the ball.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by deecee

you are missing everything. Contact after the ball is dead is either ignored, Or if need be called is a _______?

I'll let you fill in the blank. But it doesn't state the contact be either intentional or flagrant. It could be what we may normally call a common foul on, but be so egregious that the whistle has to be blown. The foul however will not be common. Usually it has to do with players just not paying any attention to the ball.

You need to actually go back and read your rule book.

Contact after the ball has become dead is ignored unless it is ruled intentional or flagrant or is committed by or on an airborne shooter.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by johnny d

You need to actually go back and read your rule book.

Contact after the ball has become dead is ignored unless it is ruled intentional or flagrant or is committed by or on an airborne shooter.

I don't think you understood the point I was trying to make. The call you make will be intentional or technical however the actual severity of contact may not hit the threshold of what may be an intentional or technical.

[APG]

Originally Posted by deecee

I don't think you understood the point I was trying to make. The call you make will be intentional or technical however the actual severity of contact may not hit the threshold of what may be an intentional or technical.

I'm not sure I understand either.

The call you make will be either intentional or flagrant. It'll just be a technical foul rather than a personal foul.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by APG

I'm not sure I understand either.

The call you make will be either intentional or flagrant. It'll just be a technical foul rather than a personal foul.

Right but the actual act that you penalize could be a common foul if the ball was live. Some officials could interpret this that ONLY intentionals or technicals should be called. When the fact could be that the foul that is penalized may not be level of severity. But the penalty assessed CAN only be intentional or technical and NOT common.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by deecee

you are missing everything. Contact after the ball is dead is either ignored, Or if need be called is a _______?

I'll let you fill in the blank. But it doesn't state the contact be either intentional or flagrant. It could be what we may normally call a common foul on, but be so egregious that the whistle has to be blown. The foul however will not be common. Usually it has to do with players just not paying any attention to the ball.

Yes it does

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Contact after the ball has become dead is ignored unless it is ruled intentional or flagrant or is committed by or on an airborne shooter.

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[OKREF]

Originally Posted by johnny d

You are missing something here...............intentional contact is not ignored either.

Correct, I did leave out intentional.