Free Throw Situation

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

I don't a case book for everything.

If you mean "use' then I agree. But it is always good to know what is stated because some will and can use the information against you later.

Peace

[Rich1]

If the player fumbles the "toss" from the ref initially then you would readminister with no viloations. But if he has the ball and then loses it (as stated in the post) then the shooter has violated, the ball is dead, and we move to next shot.

[Ed Maeder]

We must look at weather this is a fumble or a muff. A fumble happens when a player has control and loses the ball. A muff was never under player control. In this case the player fumbled the ball and hence violated. Move on to the next shot as A1 has violated. (9.1.1)

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Rich1

If the player fumbles the "toss" from the ref initially then you would readminister with no violations. But if he has the ball and then loses it (as stated in the post) then the shooter has violated, the ball is dead, and we move to next shot.

This sounds like a casebook play, or a midyear interpretation, from a few years ago. Where's Nevaderef when you need him?

In fact, where is Nevaderef?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

This sounds like a casebook play, or a midyear interpretation, from a few years ago.

It's part of the same case cited earlier (9.1.1)

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

It's part of the same case cited earlier (9.1.1)

9.1.1 SITUATION: A1, at the free-throw line to attempt a free throw: (a) muffs
the pass from the official and it rolls forward; or (b) while performing his/her
habitual dribbles prior to the release, accidentally allows the ball to deflect off
his/her foot into the lane. RULING: In (a), the official should sound the whistle to
prevent any violations and then start the free throw procedure again. No freethrow
violation should be called in this situation. In (b), a free-throw violation
shall be called on A1. (9-1-3a, e)

[Raymond]

What if the ball rolls into the lane and A1 calls a time-out before anyone else touches the ball or moves off the lane line?

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

What if the ball rolls into the lane and A1 requests a time-out before anyone else touches the ball or moves off the lane line?

I would think you'd ignore the request since the ball is no longer in his/her control or at his/her disposal.

[Rich1]

Not sure what the purpose of the time out would be, but it would not affect the situation here. Its still either a redo or a violation depending on the circumstances previously outlines. The time out could be awarded to either team after the ref has whistled to call the violation or to reset the try if it was a muffed catch but I don't know of any way a timeout can be called to avoid a violation (on free throws). Once the shooter or a teammate violates, the ball is immediately dead regardless of when the whistle is actually blown.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If you mean "use' then I agree. But it is always good to know what is stated because some will and can use the information against you later.

Peace

I meant "need" (fixed).