Free Throw Situation

JRutledge · #1 (**permalink**) Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:46pm

I am not so sure about that completely. Is it a violation just because A1 fumbles the ball? Or is it a violation because A1 is not going to likely have a successful FT attempt? And the reason I am thinking this is we only ignore lane-line violations and the one by A1 is not considered a lane line violation as they are not considered on the lane. If A1 had missed a the rim they would not be a lane-line violation. I think we would have a double violation, unless there is rules support that suggest the second A1 fumbles the ball into the lane (and cannot retrieve it without violating) is automatically a violation. I think there is a case play on this one.

9.1.1 says it is a violation for A1 when they muff the ball it is a violation, but it does not make clear when that violation actually takes place.

Peace

Adam · #2 (**permalink**) Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:56pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am not so sure about that completely. Is it a violation just because A1 fumbles the ball? Or is it a violation because A1 is not going to likely have a successful FT attempt? And the reason I am thinking this is we only ignore lane-line violations and the one by A1 is not considered a lane line violation as they are not considered on the lane. If A1 had missed a the rim they would not be a lane-line violation. I think we would have a double violation, unless there is rules support that suggest the second A1 fumbles the ball into the lane (and cannot retrieve it without violating) is automatically a violation. I think there is a case play on this one.

9.1.1 says it is a violation for A1 when they muff the ball it is a violation, but it does not make clear when that violation actually takes place.

Peace

I'm just going with the violation on A. I'm not going to penalize B for being nice.

JRutledge · #3 (**permalink**) Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:58pm

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I'm just going with the violation on A. I'm not going to penalize B for being nice.

That is what it pretty much suggests. I guess I was thinking if the muff the ball and did not get completely away from the shooter. I have seen that happen and no one moved.

Peace

Adam · #4 (**permalink**) Tue Dec 17, 2013, 06:01pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

That is what it pretty much suggests. I guess I was thinking if the muff the ball and did not get completely away from the shooter. I have seen that happen and no one moved.

Peace

If it's within the shooter's reach when B1 steps in to get the ball, I'm going with the violation on B1. Kill the play, start over with a delayed violation.

JRutledge · #5 (**permalink**) Tue Dec 17, 2013, 06:03pm

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If it's within the shooter's reach when B1 steps in to get the ball, I'm going with the violation on B1. Kill the play, start over with a delayed violation.

That was kind of my thinking. But the casebook does not make that clear or suggest we can consider that fact.

Peace

Adam · #6 (**permalink**) Tue Dec 17, 2013, 06:16pm

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That was kind of my thinking. But the casebook does not make that clear or suggest we can consider that fact.

Peace

I don't need a case book for everything.

JRutledge · #7 (**permalink**) Tue Dec 17, 2013, 06:21pm

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I don't a case book for everything.

If you mean "use' then I agree. But it is always good to know what is stated because some will and can use the information against you later.

Peace

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