Simultaneous Foul... or not??

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

The description in the op wasnt that bad but i dont think your timeline matches.

My timeline? I quoted the OP. "When the whistles blew, the ball was loose on the ground." Those weren't my words, they were from the author. Ball on the ground means shot attempt is over and the ball is dead. At that point, off ball foul should be ignored unless it is intentional or flagrant. Seems pretty simple to me.

[SNIPERBBB]

Ball on the ground.has nothing do with anything. Fouls on a 3pt shooter are often late in occurring and often called as shooting fouls when they are not.

Pending a better timeline/description we are stuck.

[shavano]

I thought I was accurate in describing the play.. What questions do you guys have?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by shavano

I thought I was accurate in describing the play.. What questions do you guys have?

What was the status of the ball when the fouls occurred?

[shavano]

Adam,

Ball was bouncing (loose) on court when whistles sounded.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by shavano

Adam,

Ball was bouncing (loose) on court when whistles sounded.

When the whistles sounded isn't relevant. POI is based on when the ball became dead, which is not when the whistles sounded. It's when the fouls occurred.

If the fouls occurred while the shot was in the air, go to the arrow if he missed. If it was when the ball was still in the shooter's hand, then A gets the ball back based on POI.

[HawkeyeCubP]

I'm confused. How could there possibly be a foul against an airborne shooter and a simultaneous foul by Awhomever while jostling for rebounding position...with the whistles for both blowing while the ball is bouncing on the court? That's a lot of hang time.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by shavano

Adam,

Ball was bouncing (loose) on court when whistles sounded.

What was the status of the ball when the fouls occurred? It doesn't matter when the whistles sounded.

[shavano]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

What was the status of the ball when the fouls occurred? It doesn't matter when the whistles sounded.

Bryan,

According to C, ball was in the air when her foul occurred.