What Are You Gonna Do?

[NCHSAA]

Rivalry game and we are shooting 2 free throws for a Technical Foul. Before the first free throw, a defensive player wants to stand an inch behind the three point line directly behind the shooter.

What are you gonna do?

[APG]

No official should do anything as there's nothing to do.

[OrStBballRef]

I'd watch to make sure he doesn't disconcert the shooter, but that's all....

I'm gonna congratulate him for not perpetuating rules myths. And I'm probably heading to the sideline to deal with an angry coach who thinks the opposing player can't stand there.

[NCHSAA]

I know the rule, however I also realized the player has no business being that close. There is no rebounding opportunity and you could tell he was trying to create trouble on the play.

I want to adhere to the rule, but I also want to manage the game.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by NCHSAA

I know the rule, however I also realized the player has no business being that close. There is no rebounding opportunity and you could tell he was trying to create trouble on the play.

I want to adhere to the rule, but I also want to manage the game.

"You know, if you're there, it's likely disconcertion and s/he gets another FT?"

If you think what he was doing is unsporting, then deal with it. Otherwise, it's legal.

Either way, it will require all your game management skills (because someone on one side is not going to be happy).

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by NCHSAA

I know the rule, however I also realized the player has no business being that close. There is no rebounding opportunity and you could tell he was trying to create trouble on the play.

I want to adhere to the rule, but I also want to manage the game.

NCHSAA:

Who says he canNOT be there? I do not care what he was trying to do while standing there as long as he does not Disconcert the Shooter or commit an Unsportsmanlike TF.

Just do NOT go there.

MTD, Sr.

[NCHSAA]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I'm gonna congratulate him for not perpetuating rules myths. And I'm probably heading to the sideline to deal with an angry coach who thinks the opposing player can't stand there.

That's the truth. I hate "everyone behind the division line"

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by OrStBballRef

I'd watch to make sure he doesn't disconcert the shooter, but that's all....

What I was going to say also.

[OKREF]

It really doesn't matter if he is in the view of the shooter. There are points along the 3 point line above the free throw line where one would be in eyesight of the shooter. If they aren't disconcerting, then they aren't breaking any rule.

[frezer11]

I really understand both points of view, but it's very surprising to me how many people here would do nothing simply because that little book doesn't tell us to. When/if that free throw shooter sinks the second one, and turns around and says "You got nothin on me," or some other snarky remark to the kid right behind him, do we let that go? Clearly it's his own fault, so thats fine, but is that not at least to some small degree, our own fault for doing NOTHING to de-escalate the situation? Why not try to call him over as was previously suggested? If he doesn't move, then tough, nothing we can do. For the record, I'm not implying we have to move him, I'm saying why not try to move him?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by frezer11

I really understand both points of view, but it's very surprising to me how many people here would do nothing simply because that little book doesn't tell us to. When/if that free throw shooter sinks the second one, and turns around and says "You got nothin on me," or some other snarky remark to the kid right behind him, do we let that go? Clearly it's his own fault, so thats fine, but is that not at least to some small degree, our own fault for doing NOTHING to de-escalate the situation? Why not try to call him over as was previously suggested? If he doesn't move, then tough, nothing we can do. For the record, I'm not implying we have to move him, I'm saying why not try to move him?

Well it is not illegal to stand behind a shooter. And because it is a rivalry game does not change the situation either unless something is said by the players standing behind the FT shooter. And even then it is not illegal in itself to speak. Yes, I would pay attention, but that is all there is to do. We do not have a rule situation to move the player arbitrarily. And if a coach told us that he we have no right, he/she would be right. If the rules makers want the player to not stand there, then they will make a rule that disallows that kind of action. But we should be careful as to doing what is not supported by rule at all.

Peace

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by frezer11

I really understand both points of view, but it's very surprising to me how many people here would do nothing simply because that little book doesn't tell us to.

This has NOTHING to do with that. You seem to assume that directly behind the shooter is some magical intimidation spot that means some snarkiness is about to happen.

I have NEVER (not once... not ever) had a player go there for some sort of message - nor had someone standing there that caused the shooter to react. Why in the world would a shooter make his fouls, and turn around to remark to an opposing player who happened to be standing where you describe.

You might as well be asking, "During a technical foul, a player on the opposing team happens to be standing near the home team's logo. What do you do?" Again... I do NOTHING. It's irrelevant. Right behind the shooter is irrelevant.

You are not just looking for boogers here... you're inventing them.

[refiator]

Originally Posted by OrStBballRef

I'd watch to make sure he doesn't disconcert the shooter, but that's all....

That's it. Nada.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by NCHSAA

Rivalry game and we are shooting 2 free throws for a Technical Foul. Before the first free throw, a defensive player wants to stand an inch behind the three point line directly behind the shooter.

What are you gonna do?

Are you trying to tell us the official did something (when there's nothing in the rule book requiring us to do anything)?

BTW, the rivalry game aspect isn't relevant. If there's a T and it's for unsportmanlike conduct there's already some level of animosity.