Scorer behavior

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Adam

If he's quiet he might get to stay in the gym. No way he stays at the table.

This. There is no way he should stay at the table.

Originally Posted by dee33

does happen probably but should that be the case on a varsity level i wouldnt allow it honestly

Under what grounds would you not allow it? We don't get to vet the table personnel. If they're being a problem, have them replaced otherwise why trouble trouble?

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by dee33

does happen probably but should that be the case on a varsity level i wouldnt allow it honestly

How are you going to not allow it?

First, how would you possibly even know (without asking) if the scorer is the parent of a team member? Then what? You go seek out game management to tell them that you want the scorer removed from the table?

Curious as to why you would even think going down that road?

Talk about looking for trouble.

[dee33]

Its not a quiz by far plus there is nothing to study or no multiple choice if you were an opposing coach would you want the star players dad from the other team keeping the offcial book just my opinion and say that because its only one official book correct

[Adam]

Originally Posted by dee33

Its not a quiz by far plus there is nothing to study or no multiple choice if you were an opposing coach would you want the star players dad from the other team keeping the offcial book just my opinion and say that because its only one official book correct

1. It happens all the time, even at the varsity level, for a few reasons.
a. Some schools just can't get any volunteers that don't have some connection to the team.
b. They don't really care.
c. Does it really matter if it's the guy's son, nephew, grandson, or daughter's boyfriend on the team?

2. There's also a visitor's book at the table to match up with. If it becomes clear that the home scorer is cooking the books, toss him and switch books.

3. I have never, ever, had a problem.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by dee33

Its not a quiz by far plus there is nothing to study or no multiple choice if you were an opposing coach would you want the star players dad from the other team keeping the offcial book just my opinion and say that because its only one official book correct

Commas, periods, and capitalization are your friends - got no idea what you're saying here. Sorry.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by dee33

Its not a quiz by far plus there is nothing to study or no multiple choice if you were an opposing coach would you want the star players dad from the other team keeping the offcial book just my opinion and say that because its only one official book correct

Deal with improper score keeping when it happens. The visitor's should be keeping their own book, especially at the varsity level. Cases of intentional cheating by the scorer are probably so rare that if they were a steak, it'd still be alive.

[APG]

Originally Posted by dee33

Its not a quiz by far plus there is nothing to study or no multiple choice if you were an opposing coach would you want the star players dad from the other team keeping the offcial book just my opinion and say that because its only one official book correct

If you want to take it that far, would the opposing coach even want someone from the home school working the table? How about someone from the surrounding area that might have some ties with the school?

There's a reason both books are located at the table near enough other and that officials will make sure both books are matching w/their information at the end of quarters. There's also a reason that the rules gives the officials the authority to designate the other book as the official or remove the old scorer IF that issue arrises. But I would say that at the varsity level, scorers, no matter their allegiances, tend to be pretty professional in carrying out their duties.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by dee33

does happen probably but should that be the case on a varsity level i wouldnt allow it honestly

You have no say in who the school hires to do their table duties...unless/until there is a problem like the one in the OP.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by dee33

does happen probably but should that be the case on a varsity level i wouldnt allow it honestly

At one school I used to work regularly, the scorer's husband was the AC and eventually the HC. Once when he was still an AC, I gave a stern warning to the HC about his assistant's behavior. At the end of the quarter when I came to the table, she told me her husband deserved that warning...LOL

[johnny d]

About 5 years ago or so, we had an official give the home team a technical foul because the official scorer waved him off and told him his call was terrible while reporting a foul. Partners tried to talk him out of calling the foul and told him that official scorer is not part of either team and cannot be charged with a T. He refused to listen and ended up having to T the home team coach as well. Needless to say, that was the last HS game that guy ever worked.

[Toren]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I'm telling game mgmt we need a new scorer, and I'm asking game mgmt to have him removed from the gym.

This. He doesn't get "rewarded" by being able to watch the game now. He gets to leave the facility.

[just another ref]

Have had a significant incident with a scorer one time in 28 years. First call I made against the home team when I went to report it she was squawking about the call just like everybody else in the bleachers around her. I'm not a finger in the face kind of guy normally, but it was called for here. I got really close and cut her off in mid-sentence. "Lady, you are not going to sit at this table and call the game. Do you understand that?" She turned six shades of red and spent the rest of the night apologizing to me.

[dee33]

Wow I see the peanut gallery has arrived its amazing how some can bash others based solely on their opinions when you have your own as the old saying goes to each its own

[APG]

Originally Posted by dee33

Wow I see the peanut gallery has arrived its amazing how some can bash others based solely on their opinions when you have your own as the old saying goes to each its own

This is a discussion board that hinges on discussing opinions amongst other things. If you give your opinion, then you should know fully well that you open up yourself to others critiquing your opinion.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by dee33

Wow I see the peanut gallery has arrived its amazing how some can bash others based solely on their opinions when you have your own as the old saying goes to each its own

Opinions aren't necessary equal. And punctuation would certainly help your presentation.