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Old Fri Nov 15, 2013, 02:22pm
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3.6.1 A6 enters the game with an excessive manufacturer's or school's logo on his/her (a) socks, (b) wristbands or (c) jersey. Ruling Legal in (a). In (b) and (c). A6 may not participate and is directed to return to the bench until legall equipped. COMMENT The restrictions on visible manufacturer's or school's logo size is in effect on jerseys, pants/skirts, compression shorts, wristbands and headbands. The shoes and socks are not considered part of the uniform for purpose of visible logo size.

I would think that if one uniform is illegal they all would be. Do you forfeit the game?
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Old Fri Nov 15, 2013, 02:25pm
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3.6.1 A6 enters the game with an excessive manufacturer's or school's logo on his/her (a) socks, (b) wristbands or (c) jersey. Ruling Legal in (a). In (b) and (c). A6 may not participate and is directed to return to the bench until legall equipped. COMMENT The restrictions on visible manufacturer's or school's logo size is in effect on jerseys, pants/skirts, compression shorts, wristbands and headbands. The shoes and socks are not considered part of the uniform for purpose of visible logo size.

I would think that if one uniform is illegal they all would be. Do you forfeit the game?
By rule you should let them participate and give 1 direct T to the HC.
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Old Fri Nov 15, 2013, 04:26pm
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By rule you should let them participate and give 1 direct T to the HC.
That's what I'm doing. I have to be able to explain what I've done on the floor against the rule book, not the case book. I'm more than comfortable telling someone that the case book is wrong.
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Old Fri Nov 15, 2013, 05:54pm
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I have to be able to explain what I've done on the floor against the rule book, not the case book. I'm more than comfortable telling someone that the case book is wrong.
I'm actually more comfortable telling a coach, or a fellow official, that the case book is the "bottom" line in regard to an interpretation. Casebook plays are much more "specific" then the generic rules in the rulebook.
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Old Fri Nov 15, 2013, 07:52pm
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I'm actually more comfortable telling a coach, or a fellow official, that the case book is the "bottom" line in regard to an interpretation. Casebook plays are much more "specific" then the generic rules in the rulebook.
This seems absolutely asinine to me. And I mean that in the nicest possible way.
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Old Fri Nov 15, 2013, 08:02pm
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This seems absolutely asinine to me. And I mean that in the nicest possible way.
Casebook plays are usually about a very specific situation, with a very clear interpretation for that very specific situation. There are some casebook plays (going the wrong way after a jump ball) that have interpretations that one would not normally be able to came up with by simply applying the rule, and the penalty.

With the exception of a casebook plays that may have became out of date, that may not have kept up with rule changes due to an oversight by the editor, I'm going with the casebook interpretation almost every time.
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Old Fri Nov 15, 2013, 11:56pm
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Clarification!!!

NOTE: THE "CLARIFICATION" IS BEING CLARIFIED!!!


From Peter Webb, IAABO Coordinator of Interpreters & Trainers:

"By rule, player A-6 simply can not participate/play while wearing excessive logos on jersey (3.5). Just as a player A-5 with a jersey not tucked into pants (3.3.5), can not participate/play and is directed to leave the game. THERE IS NO PENALTY - simply not allowed entry or directed to return to the bench. Until the excessive logos are removed or the jersey is worn properly, the team member can not return as a player.

Technical Foul would be the penalty for 3.2.2 c, d, e, & 10.1.2 Penalty
Technical Foul would be the penalty for illegal number 3.4 d

The Technical Foul penalty regarding uniforms primarily has to do with numbers and prior to the game. Additionally, a player wearing an illegal number is charged with a Technical Foul, but can play while wearing the number. A team member with excessive logos or over sized logos on jersey can not play.

I hope the above response is of help. I will make a note to bring the matter to the attention of the NFHS Rules Editor next spring. Some editing might help the clarity."
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