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Old Tue Oct 08, 2013, 04:21am
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Logo placement

First on the shirt: 3-4-2d states it "may be located at the apex/opening of the neckline or above it. Not quite sure how you have a logo above the opening of your shirt as that would be your neck or head. Can someone put this into english on where a mascot can be?

Second, why is there a logo requirement/restriction on compression shorts in 3-5-7 as they cannot extend beyond the uniform pant anyway? Thus no one should be able to see it.
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Old Tue Oct 08, 2013, 07:34am
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1) It means "above an imaginary line parallel to the ground, through the apex" -- in other words, in the "shoulder area" of the jersey.

2) While play is going on, the compression shorts are sometimes visible -- and so would a logo if it were allowed.
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Old Tue Oct 08, 2013, 09:35am
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Second, why is there a logo requirement/restriction on compression shorts in 3-5-7 as they cannot extend beyond the uniform pant anyway? Thus no one should be able to see it.
Also, when the rule first came into being baggy shorts weren't around. We old guys – i.e., folks who worked in the 80s or 90s – remember when compression shorts were first in style. The game shorts were actually shorts as opposed to culottes.

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Old Tue Oct 08, 2013, 02:26pm
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Whoa!

Where does it say that compression shorts can not extend beyond the shorts?

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"Second, why is there a logo requirement/restriction on compression shorts in 3-5-7 as they cannot extend beyond the uniform pant anyway? Thus no one should be able to see it."
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Old Tue Oct 08, 2013, 04:25pm
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Where does it say that compression shorts can not extend beyond the shorts?

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"Second, why is there a logo requirement/restriction on compression shorts in 3-5-7 as they cannot extend beyond the uniform pant anyway? Thus no one should be able to see it."
NFHS 3-5-7

Compression shorts/tights shall be a single solid color similar to the predominant color of the pants/skirt; the length shall be above the knee. Undergarments shall not extend below the pants/skirt.
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Old Tue Oct 08, 2013, 04:57pm
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Compression shorts/tights shall be a single solid color similar to the predominant color of the pants/skirt; the length shall be above the knee. Undergarments shall not extend below the pants/skirt.
So, obviously, for the purpose of length restrictions, leg sleeves aren't undergarments, and tights are undergarments.
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Old Tue Oct 08, 2013, 05:47pm
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compression shorts do not fall under the undergarment restrictions. undergarments= anything other than compression shorts.

Legal compression shorts can go below the shorts as long as they are above the knee.
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Old Tue Oct 08, 2013, 07:02pm
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compression shorts do not fall under the undergarment restrictions. undergarments= anything other than compression shorts.

Legal compression shorts can go below the shorts as long as they are above the knee.
According to who (whom?)? Rule citation please?
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Old Tue Oct 08, 2013, 08:09pm
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So, obviously, for the purpose of length restrictions, leg sleeves aren't undergarments, and tights are undergarments.
Leg sleeves are not an undergarment and are legal.

Tights are an undergarmentl.

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compression shorts do not fall under the undergarment restrictions. undergarments= anything other than compression shorts.

Legal compression shorts can go below the shorts as long as they are above the knee.
Welcome the forum.

Wrong newbie. Undergarments are any garment worn under the uniform. Compression shorts are an undergarment and cannot extend below the uniform shorts. It's right there in black and white in 3-5-7.
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Old Tue Oct 08, 2013, 08:28pm
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Then why does the rule address compression shorts with certain restrictions an undergarments with another? Why not just group it all as undergarments. There is also a casebook play that addresses undergarments and compression shorts as separate issues.
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Old Tue Oct 08, 2013, 08:55pm
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Then why does the rule address compression shorts with certain restrictions an undergarments with another? Why not just group it all as undergarments. There is also a casebook play that addresses undergarments and compression shorts as separate issues.
Compression shorts, tights, boxers, brief, jock straps, other shorts, etc. are ALL examples of undergarments.

3-5-7 addresses compression shorts and tights' color and length.

There are no color or length restrictions on other undergarments.

The rule then continues on to address all undergarments and states that they cannot extend below the uniform pants/shorts/skirts.
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Old Wed Oct 09, 2013, 04:44am
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Leg sleeves are not an undergarment and are legal.
...if they're being worn for medical reasons (3-5-3d) and meet the logo requirements of 3-6.
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...if they're being worn for medical reasons (3-5-3d) and meet the logo requirements of 3-6.
LEG COMPRESSION SLEEVE REQUIREMENTS (3-5-3): The specifications for leg compression sleeves were added because of the frequent use of these sleeves for non-medical reasons. The specifications match those of arm compression sleeve. They must be white, beige, or a single solid school color. The sleeve must be the same color for each team member and have only a single manufacturer's logo that does not exceed 2 1/4 square inches. The sleeve must be worn for medical reasons only.
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LEG COMPRESSION SLEEVE REQUIREMENTS (3-5-3): The specifications for leg compression sleeves were added because of the frequent use of these sleeves for non-medical reasons. The specifications match those of arm compression sleeve. They must be white, beige, or a single solid school color. The sleeve must be the same color for each team member and have only a single manufacturer's logo that does not exceed 2 1/4 square inches. The sleeve must be worn for medical reasons only.
Yeah, but guess what, they'll all be for medical reasons this season.
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Old Wed Oct 09, 2013, 08:33am
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Compression shorts, tights, boxers, brief, jock straps, other shorts, etc. are ALL examples of undergarments.

3-5-7 addresses compression shorts and tights' color and length.

There are no color or length restrictions on other undergarments.

The rule then continues on to address all undergarments and states that they cannot extend below the uniform pants/shorts/skirts.
While you might consider compression shorts undergarments, the NFHS rules do not.

If compression shorts can not be visible, then why would there be a requirement on color, length and logo?

2006-2007 NFHS rulebook:
page 26 rule 3 art.6
"Undergarments or tights shall not extend below the pants/skirt.
Exception: Compression shorts may be worn if the length is above the knee and they are of a single color similar to the predominant color ot the pants/skirt."

The rule has not changed in the 2012-13 book, it has been reorganized, a logo restriction has been aded since the 2006-07 book.
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