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Old Wed Nov 13, 2013, 07:30pm
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Slight contact on the wrist. Marginal at best. Should have no called it. I don't think this has anything to do with the new emphasis at all. This is just a miss, like every other year where we aren't perfect.

In either case, whether you judge marginal or not, I liked the cadence.

Definitely a travel.

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Old Wed Nov 13, 2013, 07:50pm
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Although this play is hardly a prime example of it, I hate that offensive players constantly get foul calls after going into the defender's vertical space.

It's definitely not enough that I'd call an offensive foul, but there's no way I'd call a foul on the defense. The fact it comes from the trail official, who probably shouldn't be looking for that type of call, is sad.
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Old Wed Nov 13, 2013, 09:23pm
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Slight contact on the wrist. Marginal at best. Should have no called it. I don't think this has anything to do with the new emphasis at all. This is just a miss, like every other year where we aren't perfect.

In either case, whether you judge marginal or not, I liked the cadence.

Definitely a travel.
Independent of the play in question, slight contact on the shooting arm (including the wrist) will almost always be a foul on the defender.
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Old Thu Nov 14, 2013, 02:39am
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Slight contact on the wrist. Marginal at best. Should have no called it.
Do you really let defenders smack shooters on the wrist just before they release the ball? Really? If it was a dunk or the shot came off clean, maybe. But that should be a foul every day. There is nothing remotely legal about preventing a shot like that.

That said, it should have been a offensive foul for moving the defender back with an elbow in his rib cage before calling that.

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Definitely a travel.
Absolutely. Pretty clear cut travel too. Gets missed too often and defenders are left trying to defend and illegal move. And with the adjustments to the rules it will make a defenders job even harder unless they also balance out the new strictness on contact with comparable attention to traveling. But, of course, they wont since the goal isn't really balance but increased scoring.
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Old Thu Nov 14, 2013, 09:36am
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Absolutely. Pretty clear cut travel too. Gets missed too often and defenders are left trying to defend and illegal move. And with the adjustments to the rules it will make a defenders job even harder unless they also balance out the new strictness on contact with comparable attention to traveling. But, of course, they wont since the goal isn't really balance but increased scoring.
Sounds like the NBE.
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