NCAA Hand-Checking Article - USAToday

[rlarry]

Originally Posted by dahoopref

2 games into the season and this is exactly how mine have gone as well.

What I have been seeing is when the perimeter defender gets beaten, more help-side defenders are trying to take a charge. The C & L must pick up that help-side defender on those drives.

I've worked 2 scrimmages and 1 exhibition, not one charge call yet. Both rule changes are a great advantage for the offense.

[JetMetFan]

(AP) "When they're going to call fouls, you've got to be able to play without fouling," Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim said.

"Obviously there's a lot of fouls and no rhythm," (Kansas Head Coach Bill Self) said after his fifth-ranked Jayhawks beat No. 4 Duke 94-83. "I believe the first game was a lot like that, too, at least in the second half. To be honest, I don't like it, but hopefully players will learn to adjust and coaches will do a better job. It just takes away all aggressiveness defensively. At least it does with us."

"I think the officials are doing what they're supposed to do," Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski said. "Everyone just has to keep adjusting. Too much is being said about it. Start playing the way we're supposed to play.

(UConn Women's Head Coach Geno Auriemma said) "If players are smart, they'll adjust to it. I tell our guys, 'Either stay in your stance and stay in the game, or come out of your stance and come out of the game. Those are your choices, dude. That's it."

Scoring peaked at 70.7 points for the women in 1982-83 and has been on a steady decline ever since. The points of emphasis seem to be working early as points are up. Teams are averaging just over 70 points, which is eight more than last season's record low and the highest since the 1990-91 season.

Men's teams are averaging 76.0 points through the first few days, an increase from last season's 67.5 - which was the lowest in men's basketball since 1952.

[grunewar]

But this was the second game for both, the first against top-flight competition. Add college basketball's new freedom-of-movement rules and the defenses coached superbly by Virginia's Tony Bennett and VCU's Shaka Smart, and a game in the 50s is inevitable.

Virginia was 19-of-33 from the line, but VCU was worse at 6-of-15. Both teams were saddled with foul trouble, forcing the coaches to tinker with rotations.

The veteran ACC officiating crew of Jamie Luckie, Mike Eades and Tony Greene whistled 27 first-half fouls, 21 thereafter. That's one foul every 50 seconds for the evening.

“The officials are charged with calling some (new) points of emphasis,” Bennett said. “It's hard. … I think they're doing the best they can in that situation.”

[JetMetFan]

Not to paint all NCAAM's officials with the same brush but I think they're going to have more issues than those of us on the NCAAW's side. We've had these guidelines, we just got out of the habit of enforcing them. More importantly, the players have known the guidelines for a while and generally adhered to them.

Meantime, as I write this I'm watching the replay of Michigan State/Kentucky and it's as though the players can't help themselves in terms of putting their hands on the ball handler. They know they're not supposed to do it but they don't look like they know how to play defense any other way.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Not to paint all NCAAM's officials with the same brush but I think they're going to have more issues than those of us on the NCAAW's side. We've had these guidelines, we just got out of the habit of enforcing them. More importantly, the players have known the guidelines for a while and generally adhered to them.

With all due respect we have had these guidelines too for years and ever since John Adams took over his post it was really emphasized. The game has change previously, but all the participants were complaining. Also the Men's game is played completely differently then the women's game as well. I am not saying everything is going to be smooth or continue, but games are already taking a lot longer because everyone appears to be calling these initiatives. These were once guidelines, now they are rules. Harder to ignore.

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Meantime, as I write this I'm watching the replay of Michigan State/Kentucky and it's as though the players can't help themselves in terms of putting their hands on the ball handler. They know they're not supposed to do it but they don't look like they know how to play defense any other way.

This kind of proves my point. The game is played a lot differently and players previously would try to control the ball handler with their arms. It was always a rough thing to decide when an advantage is taken. That style of defense was taught at all levels except the NBA to be honest.

Peace

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

With all due respect we have had these guidelines too for years and ever since John Adams took over his post it was really emphasized. The game has change previously, but all the participants were complaining. Also the Men's game is played completely differently then the women's game as well. I am not saying everything is going to be smooth or continue, but games are already taking a lot longer because everyone appears to be calling these initiatives. These were once guidelines, now they are rules. Harder to ignore.

Sorry, Jeff, I hope it didn’t sound as though I was trying to knock NCAAM’s officials in the previous post and if it did my apologies. Also, thanks for reminding me about John Adams. He’s definitely been diligent about turning things around. Just wondering, do you think it’ll be harder for the men’s officials to adjust or the coaches/players? I know even on my side of the game some officials, especially those higher on the food chain, have said it’s rough to turn back the clock.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

This kind of proves my point. The game is played a lot differently and players previously would try to control the ball handler with their arms. It was always a rough thing to decide when an advantage is taken. That style of defense was taught at all levels except the NBA to be honest.

One thing women – either officials or players – remind us about on my side is the guidelines work because a larger number of women don’t deal with rough play very well, mainly due to socialization (i,e., boys grow up looking for ways to beat each other up, girls don’t). One of my assignors – a woman – told us, “Guys look for contact…but what’s the first thing a girl says when there’s contact: Get off me!” The closest I come to working an NCAAM game is higher-level BV. NFHS rules are more restrictive but those guys seem shocked when there’s a call that doesn’t involve someone getting shoved all over the place.

[johnny d]

In response to your question, Jetmet, I think it is going to be much harder for the players/coaches to adjust than the officials. As officials, we don't have to change much at all. We have always seen the contact with the hands and arms. In the past, we had to use some judgment to decide if that was affecting the play or not. Now we just have to call what we see. I think this is a minor adjustment. The players and coaches have to completely rethink and rework how they have been playing or coaching defense for years. Pretty much every aspect of how they guard ball handlers needs to be changed. This is much more drastic than what we as officials have to change.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Meantime, as I write this I'm watching the replay of Michigan State/Kentucky and it's as though the players can't help themselves in terms of putting their hands on the ball handler. They know they're not supposed to do it but they don't look like they know how to play defense any other way.

I don't know who it was but there was one guy on that crew that was driving me batty. He just had to quadruple tweet just about everything and over sell even basic calls. It made it look like it was his first time there.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I don't know who it was but there was one guy on that crew that was driving me batty. He just had to quadruple tweet just about everything and over sell even basic calls. It made it look like it was his first time there.

The crew was Mike Kitts, Pat Driscoll and Ted Valentine. I think Driscoll is the one you're talking about.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

The crew was Mike Kitts, Pat Driscoll and Ted Valentine. I think Driscoll is the one you're talking about.

You are correct. I knew the other two but didn't know his name/face.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

(AP) "When they're going to call fouls, you've got to be able to play without fouling" ...

... says Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim, also known as "Coach Zone".