"Unofficial" signals

[Raymond]

Had a conference clinic today. Rules interpreter told us that on illegal screen calls we need to use any signal we can think of that most accurately describes the act when reporting to the table.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Had a conference clinic today. Rules interpreter told us that on illegal screen calls we need to use any signal we can think of that most accurately describes the act when reporting to the table.

Back on track! College I presume?

I've been told not to do the "hook 'em horns" signal, but rather the "two index fingers" to signal single bonus. However, during play (perhaps when one team is stalling for final shot), I find the horns signal is much quicker.

As someone else mentioned the "last shot" signal is unofficial but should be essential. Here we just pat our chest, how is it done in other areas?

[Raymond]

I just don't see why at any level an evaluator would ding intra-crew signals. They should be happy you are communicating.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I've been told not to do the "hook 'em horns" signal, but rather the "two index fingers" to signal single bonus.

We've been instructed not to use the "hook 'em horns" signal when, as the lead, administering a one and one free throw. Nothing has been said to us about intra-crew one and one signals.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Here we just pat our chest, how is it done in other areas?

that's completely backwards, as I'd expect from you and your area. You need to move into this century.

The correct mechanic is to give a chest bump to your palm.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

that's completely backwards, as I'd expect from you and your area. You need to move into this century.

The correct mechanic is to give a chest bump to your palm.

Speaking of funky signals, have you seen the NBA "one minute left" signal??

[APG]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Speaking of funky signals, have you seen the NBA "one minute left" signal??

Said signal is to signify the clock will stop after a made basket...you'll see that same signal used with at the 2 minute mark of the 4th/OT.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I've been told not to do the "hook 'em horns" signal, but rather the "two index fingers" to signal single bonus. However, during play (perhaps when one team is stalling for final shot), I find the horns signal is much quicker.

Wow, talk about OOO (Overly Observational Observers).

As for the last second shot, here, we point one finger in the air. The official who has the last shot chest bumps his palm.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Adam

As for the last second shot, here, we point one finger in the air. The official who has the last shot chest bumps his palm.

Thank you. I absolutely despise seeing guys pat their head to indicate a last second shot. I'm waiting for them to rub their tummy as well.

[constable]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Thank you. I absolutely despise seeing guys pat their head to indicate a last second shot. I'm waiting for them to rub their tummy as well.

2 years ago IAABO published an article in the sportorial advising against people patting their head. This was done as it could lead to confusion due to it being the signal for a shot clock violation in the NCAA.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Thank you. I absolutely despise seeing guys pat their head to indicate a last second shot. I'm waiting for them to rub their tummy as well.

That was how I was initially learned.

[BillyMac]

Does anyone use an intra-crew unofficial signal to let your partner know that there's only a short time left in the period (one minute) so as to not be surprised by, and possibly miss, a close call (shot released) at the end of the period.

Over the past thirty-two years, we've had a lot of unofficial signals for this, head patting (like the clock violation signal), point to your wrist (I guess that it would be point to your cell phone now), single finger (for one minute), point to clock and turn finger clockwise (mimicking a clock), etc.

For most of my thirty-two years, many of us were reluctant to use any such signal at all, because we had an assistant interpreter, he was a by the book guy (no signal for this in the book), who also ran our training committee, who discouraged us from using any such signal. When questioned about why he discouraged such signals, he always responded that both of us should know how much time is left.

He retired a few years ago and now we're left hanging in the wind.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Does anyone use an intra-crew unofficial signal to let your partner know that there's only a short time left in the period (one minute) so as to not be surprised by, and possibly miss, a close call (shot released) at the end of the period.

Over the past thirty-two years, we've had a lot of unofficial signals for this, head patting (like the clock violation signal), point to your wrist (I guess that it would be point to your cell phone now), single finger (for one minute), point to clock and turn finger clockwise (mimicking a clock), etc.

For most of my thirty-two years, many of us were reluctant to use any such signal at all, because we had an assistant interpreter, he was a by the book guy (no signal for this in the book), who also ran our training committee, who discouraged us from using any such signal. When questioned about why he discouraged such signals, he always responded that both of us should know how much time is left.

He retired a few years ago and now we're left hanging in the wind.

Although you both should know how much time is on the clock, it is good for the crew to know that the rest of the crew knows. End of game good shot/late shot situations are often thought of as the most important play of the game if it is a one posession ball game. Getting this call is crucial and your crew will sink or swim depending on if you got it right or not. It looks awfully bad when the covering official loses track of time and isn't even remotely thinking about if the shot is off in time. The communication between the crew I think is appropriate here. We use a one finger point to our Ps to verify they check the clock and know the time remaining. Some use the head pat thing but I will agree this can be confused with shot clock violation signiling so I don't like it.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Does anyone use an intra-crew unofficial signal to let your partner know that there's only a short time left in the period (one minute) so as to not be surprised by, and possibly miss, a close call (shot released) at the end of the period.

I have to ask, did you even read the rest of the thread?

(Please don't quote all the posts in this thread about that issue.)

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

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He retired a few years ago and now we're left hanging in the wind.

Left hanging? You guys afraid to step out on your own and throw caution to the wind?