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Old Sat Oct 05, 2013, 07:19pm
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Interesting, because whenever I make any signal not listed in the book during a camp or observation I get dinged for it.
Signals toward your partners? Like the hook 'em Horns signal to make sure the crew knows the bonus is in effect? Acknowledging who has the last shot?

I can see unauthorized signals towards the table being dinged.
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Old Sat Oct 05, 2013, 10:36pm
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Interesting, because whenever I make any signal not listed in the book during a camp or observation I get dinged for it.
Well considering that the "kick signal" was used for years as well as the new "tip signal" long before they were approved, I guess it depends on what the information you are sending.

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Old Sun Oct 06, 2013, 07:30pm
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Had a conference clinic today. Rules interpreter told us that on illegal screen calls we need to use any signal we can think of that most accurately describes the act when reporting to the table.
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Old Sun Oct 06, 2013, 10:08pm
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Had a conference clinic today. Rules interpreter told us that on illegal screen calls we need to use any signal we can think of that most accurately describes the act when reporting to the table.
Back on track! College I presume?

I've been told not to do the "hook 'em horns" signal, but rather the "two index fingers" to signal single bonus. However, during play (perhaps when one team is stalling for final shot), I find the horns signal is much quicker.

As someone else mentioned the "last shot" signal is unofficial but should be essential. Here we just pat our chest, how is it done in other areas?
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Old Sun Oct 06, 2013, 10:54pm
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I just don't see why at any level an evaluator would ding intra-crew signals. They should be happy you are communicating.
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I've been told not to do the "hook 'em horns" signal, but rather the "two index fingers" to signal single bonus.
We've been instructed not to use the "hook 'em horns" signal when, as the lead, administering a one and one free throw. Nothing has been said to us about intra-crew one and one signals.
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Here we just pat our chest, how is it done in other areas?
that's completely backwards, as I'd expect from you and your area. You need to move into this century.

The correct mechanic is to give a chest bump to your palm.
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I've been told not to do the "hook 'em horns" signal, but rather the "two index fingers" to signal single bonus. However, during play (perhaps when one team is stalling for final shot), I find the horns signal is much quicker.
Wow, talk about OOO (Overly Observational Observers).

As for the last second shot, here, we point one finger in the air. The official who has the last shot chest bumps his palm.
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As for the last second shot, here, we point one finger in the air. The official who has the last shot chest bumps his palm.
Thank you. I absolutely despise seeing guys pat their head to indicate a last second shot. I'm waiting for them to rub their tummy as well.
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Thank you. I absolutely despise seeing guys pat their head to indicate a last second shot. I'm waiting for them to rub their tummy as well.
2 years ago IAABO published an article in the sportorial advising against people patting their head. This was done as it could lead to confusion due to it being the signal for a shot clock violation in the NCAA.
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that's completely backwards, as I'd expect from you and your area. You need to move into this century.

The correct mechanic is to give a chest bump to your palm.
Speaking of funky signals, have you seen the NBA "one minute left" signal??
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Back on track! College I presume?

I've been told not to do the "hook 'em horns" signal, but rather the "two index fingers" to signal single bonus. However, during play (perhaps when one team is stalling for final shot), I find the horns signal is much quicker.

As someone else mentioned the "last shot" signal is unofficial but should be essential. Here we just pat our chest, how is it done in other areas?

There is always going to be someone that has a bug up someone's backside about something. That does not mean ultimately you listen to them.

I had one clinician tell me not to hold my finger up for a last second shot. Then I was told by another clinician one make sure you communicate with your partners near the end of the with a finger up. Both were NCAA tournament officials and one worked the Final Four. One assigned a college league, and both worked in the same basic conferences. I just went back to what I was doing after the one told me to do something that was never a problem.

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Speaking of funky signals, have you seen the NBA "one minute left" signal??
Said signal is to signify the clock will stop after a made basket...you'll see that same signal used with at the 2 minute mark of the 4th/OT.
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Thank you. I absolutely despise seeing guys pat their head to indicate a last second shot. I'm waiting for them to rub their tummy as well.
That was how I was initially learned.
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