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Old Sat Aug 03, 2013, 02:54am
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I understand that saying "on the floor" is considered unacceptable so I stopped saying it.

However, I think it quickly conveys the essential information that the foul was before the shot.

So, I have said "spot" or "designated spot" instead. However, many players don't seem to understand what that means and I've been asked by players if it was a shooting foul.

I've also used "white ball" which seems to works better.

So, what is the best way to say it? I don't think that "before the shot" would be any more acceptable than "on the floor".
"before the shot" is just as easy to say as "on the floor" but is actually accurate in its meaning since it says that the foul occurred before the shot. A player could be shooting while still "on the floor" so a player could be getting 2 FTs having been on the floor. Why confuse thing when you don't need to?

"Spot" isn't used at the time of a foul but when administering the throwin on the backcourt endline mostly after a timeout.
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Old Sat Aug 03, 2013, 03:32am
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If one assumes that the use of "on the floor" means an official doesn't understand continuous motion, one could also assume that an official who says "don't move" doesn't understand the details of a spot throw-in.

One thing has nothing to do with the other.
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Old Sat Aug 03, 2013, 03:46am
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If one assumes that the use of "on the floor" means an official doesn't understand continuous motion, one could also assume that an official who says "don't move" doesn't understand the details of a spot throw-in.

One thing has nothing to do with the other.
Yup. So many inconsistencies.
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Old Sat Aug 03, 2013, 06:44am
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If one assumes that the use of "on the floor" means an official doesn't understand continuous motion, one could also assume that an official who says "don't move" doesn't understand the details of a spot throw-in.

One thing has nothing to do with the other.
Well when you find that person, let me know. I have yet to meet that person that has ever been confused by the other term. Or better yet, I have never met the person that does not move literally.

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Old Sat Aug 03, 2013, 07:26am
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Well when you find that person, let me know. I have yet to meet that person that has ever been confused by the other term.
Diogenes, is that you?
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Old Sat Aug 03, 2013, 05:47am
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Why confuse things when you don't need to ...
... or don't have to? Thus, the purpose of my list.
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Old Sat Aug 03, 2013, 07:30pm
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"before the shot" is just as easy to say as "on the floor" but is actually accurate in its meaning since it says that the foul occurred before the shot. A player could be shooting while still "on the floor" so a player could be getting 2 FTs having been on the floor. Why confuse thing when you don't need to?

"Spot" isn't used at the time of a foul but when administering the throwin on the backcourt endline mostly after a timeout.
Thanks - I'll go with "before the shot".
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Old Sat Aug 03, 2013, 07:40pm
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Very few people understand that they can go as far back as they want

Boys HS summer league game last weekend....player asks me to back the defender up to give him three feet. I told him no, but that he can back up as far as he would like. He points to a spot three feet behind him and asks if that is ok. I told him yes and he could back up all the way to the wall if he would like. The idea seemed foreign to him.

I think very few players understand this rule. Otherwise, they would back up more frequently to have a clear passing lane.
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Old Sat Aug 03, 2013, 08:47pm
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Agree, but we should still set a good example.
What you are debating is not about a good example or bad example. It is a personal pet peeve. That is fine, but not everyone agrees with personal pet peeves no matter how logical you might think they are.

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Old Sun Aug 04, 2013, 06:05am
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The idea seemed foreign to him.
Maybe it was your Virginian accent. I've been to Richmond, and you guys do talk funny.

Note: There really is such a thing as "Southern hospitality". I've never met so many polite, well mannered, and pleasant people, than on my weekend in Richmond. I found the same thing to be true on my vacation in North Carolina. You guys must think that Northeasterners, specifically New Englanders, are impolite oafs, when you travel north?
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