Summer Ball

[Adam]

One coach thinks we're pathetic.

Parent from the other team says he's a college official and I need "to learn."

And I missed part of Father's Day for this.

[rekent]

Sounds a bit like my day too, just smile and ignore...

[Multiple Sports]

Any parent that says he is a college official and criticizes another official is a joke !!!!!

[Altor]

He obviously meant that he officiated intramurals when he was in school.

[rekent]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

Any parent that says he is a college official and criticizes another official is a joke !!!!!

Forget a parent, any official who would openly criticize another official like that is a joke.

[Bad Zebra]

Ask him what league he works for...tell him you need to know so you can let his assigner know what a horse's a** he is in the stands.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by rekent

Any official who would openly criticize another official like that is a joke.

Agree 100%.

[JRutledge]

I had a better one for you. I had a "high school official" that worked the table at an AAU tournament and did not understand why we kept awarding baskets on a shooting foul when the player started their motion to the basket and were not in the air. BTW, me and my partner both work college ball and were calling it the same all day.

And some people want all rules to be the exact same at all levels?

Peace

[The_Rookie]

Originally Posted by Adam

One coach thinks we're pathetic.

Parent from the other team says he's a college official and I need "to learn."

And I missed part of Father's Day for this.

Sad to say but this happens in gyms all over the country and to all levels of officials..state playoff, college and rookies subject to this...nature of the beast!

[johnny d]

Worked some crap-ass HS shootout this past weekend because it was assigned by one of the college assignors I work for and he expects you to work at least one day at one of the many HS shootouts he assigns every summer. One of the schools has a new coach. He is a young guy and this is his first head coaching experience at varsity level so he is a little wound up and kind of excitable. He is questioning lots of calls and acting like this is the state playoffs rather than the glorified practice that it is. They are getting drilled by 30 late in the second half when a player from the other team comes flying out of nowhere for an amazing two hand follow up dunk on a missed shot. I was trail and it was probably basket interference, but taking into account it is summer, games dont mean anything, score at the time, and just the plain awesome nature of the play, I decide not to wave the basket off. The coach starts jumping up and down complaining about goaltending. So I go over there and tell him relax it is a summer league game there isnt any reason to get all worked up. He says it was GT, I tell him the ball was out of the cylinder. He wants to keep arguing and eventually says it is my opinion the ball is out of the cylinder. Finally, ive had enough so I respond to him that if he wanted his opinion to matter, he should have become a referee instead of a coach. I think it stunned him into silence. The only good thing about these worthless summer games is the level of professionalism expected from us is so much lower than the regular season we can actually respond to these idiot coaches in ways that we never can when the games matter.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by johnny d

They are getting drilled by 30 late in the second half when a player from the other team comes flying out of nowhere for an amazing two hand follow up dunk on a missed shot. I was trail and it was probably basket interference, but taking into account it is summer, games dont mean anything, score at the time, and just the plain awesome nature of the play, I decide not to wave the basket off.

That to would make me more likely to call it, not ignore it. Why let the team that is getting drilled get embarrassed by an illegal play? No good can come from that.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

That to would make me more likely to call it, not ignore it. Why let the team that is getting drilled get embarrassed by an illegal play? No good can come from that.

Exactly, and the same goes for the smart-ass comment at the end of a conversation that lasted way too long. Let the coach tell you what he saw, tell him you disagree and it's time to move on. That's the longest you should get, IMO, on this play. Don't be surprised if your college assigner is paying attention to how you respond to coaches in this situation.

And again, I agree that it seems like you probably should have called the BI.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by Adam

Don't be surprised if your college assigner is paying attention to how you respond to coaches in this situation.

He isn't there and doesn't care as long as there are two people there. He knows the coaches around here can be complete dumbasses in the summer. He knows we are not even getting half of a regular game fee to work the game, and he knows it is nothing more than a glorified practice with the teams missing many if not all of their best players. Most importantly, I have worked HS and college for him long enough so that he knows exactly how I handle coaches when it actually matters.

[BatteryPowered]

Originally Posted by johnny d

Worked some crap-ass HS shootout this past weekend because it was assigned by one of the college assignors I work for and he expects you to work at least one day at one of the many HS shootouts he assigns every summer. One of the schools has a new coach. He is a young guy and this is his first head coaching experience at varsity level so he is a little wound up and kind of excitable. He is questioning lots of calls and acting like this is the state playoffs rather than the glorified practice that it is. They are getting drilled by 30 late in the second half when a player from the other team comes flying out of nowhere for an amazing two hand follow up dunk on a missed shot. I was trail and it was probably basket interference, but taking into account it is summer, games dont mean anything, score at the time, and just the plain awesome nature of the play, I decide not to wave the basket off. The coach starts jumping up and down complaining about goaltending. So I go over there and tell him relax it is a summer league game there isnt any reason to get all worked up. He says it was GT, I tell him the ball was out of the cylinder. He wants to keep arguing and eventually says it is my opinion the ball is out of the cylinder. Finally, ive had enough so I respond to him that if he wanted his opinion to matter, he should have become a referee instead of a coach. I think it stunned him into silence. The only good thing about these worthless summer games is the level of professionalism expected from us is so much lower than the regular season we can actually respond to these idiot coaches in ways that we never can when the games matter.

Wow...what would you have done if that would have sent him over the edge. You didn't call a violation against the other team when his team was getting embarrased because you thought it was an awesome play. Then you bait him (in my opinion) with that smart-a...err, that comment.

You got away with it...so I guess there was no real harm. Luckily for your partner he did start tearing into him after you set the stage.

Just my opinions.

[JRutledge]

Summer time it the time I call everything. I do not miss on a violation or foul if it is obvious ever. It is better for the players and coaches to learn now then during the season. And the clock is running too in the vast cases so it gives us time to "rest" honestly when we blow the whistle.

Peace