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Old Sat Jun 01, 2013, 09:46pm
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LeBron Offensive Foul--video request

Game 6. 4:18 in the 4th.

What do you all think?

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Old Sat Jun 01, 2013, 09:57pm
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Good call. No great call and not called enough at all levels.

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Old Sat Jun 01, 2013, 10:09pm
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I know more about Noah's Ark than the arc under the basket in NBA.
Is it correct by that the offensive player causing contact commits a PC foul if the defender inside that arc maintains verticality?
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Old Sat Jun 01, 2013, 10:12pm
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I know more about Noah's Ark than the arc under the basket in NBA.
Is it correct by that the offensive player causing contact commits a PC foul if the defender inside that arc maintains verticality?
We discussed this before and I am sure someone will reference the actual rule again, but when a player goes airborne the arc is not at play.

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Old Sat Jun 01, 2013, 10:48pm
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i thought it was very similar to the no call involving the same players just a few minutes before. that was the lay up lebron made. thought there were a couple inconsistent calls by ref number 25. he had a few in a row in the third. the player he had where haslem slid under after the player was airborne. then a blocking foul on haslem when the offensive player was spinning out of control and crashes into him. Does the arc bail out the out of control player in this case? just my initial thoughts. they didnt show a replay of either of those
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Old Sat Jun 01, 2013, 11:50pm
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the tech one?
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Should have been a no call. Either 1. The defensive player was not established before Lebron made his move. or 2. Same time- meaning a no call. Instead the ref goes with a charge which was the incorrect call. Unusual play and call. Good one to study. Listen, my preference is for the no call. I understand people who can argue for a charge here. I've called charges here with the Def player jumping straight up. My issue is simply that Lebron makes a move to break down the D. The interior D is a split second late. It would be wrong to call it a bad call but my argument is simply that a no call was preferable.

But overall seems people are ok with the refs this game despite some calls here and there.
I kind of wonder if Wade will retire or take a year off after the season...

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Maybe "Post O' The Month" ...

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I know more about Noah's Ark than the arc under the basket in NBA.
Great line. My nomination for "Post O' The Week".
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Old Sun Jun 02, 2013, 09:48am
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I am not an NBA ref and never will be, but this does not look like a simple block charge. Lebron leads with his elbow and uses it to clear his way for his shot.

Great call in my book!
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Old Sun Jun 02, 2013, 09:48am
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I can't understand how people are saying there wasn't enough to warrant a charge when there was CLEAR DISPLACEMENT. Hibbert was cleared out and landed on his back.

Are you trying to tell me it was a flop? In mid air?!?
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Old Sun Jun 02, 2013, 10:47am
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I can't understand how people are saying there wasn't enough to warrant a charge when there was CLEAR DISPLACEMENT. Hibbert was cleared out and landed on his back.

Are you trying to tell me it was a flop? In mid air?!?
How about the LBJ flop on the foul George got?
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Old Sun Jun 02, 2013, 03:41pm
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Great call. Not even close to being a no call or a block.
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Old Sun Jun 02, 2013, 05:51pm
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Great call. Not even close to being a no call or a block.
+1

This is a 'play on' - in rugby, maybe.

Gotta say, this has been an entertaining series
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Old Sun Jun 02, 2013, 10:44pm
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I wonder if Lebron will try to take over game 7. Wade wants to ball more but the key players are Bosh and Steph. Bosh especially needs to pick it up or the Heat could lose.
I hope there (aren't) ref issues with game 7. Looking forward too an exciting game (just less ads NBA!)

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Old Mon Jun 03, 2013, 09:45am
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Another play very similar was no-called earlier. See play #3 below (35 seconds). I thought that one was a charge too, although the defender's verticality could be argued. Seems like too much contact to no call.


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Block I. Defender just inside marked area.
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