LeBron Offensive Foul--video request

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Originally Posted by mutantducky

the tech one?
VIDEO: LeBron James hit with a fourth-quarter tech - CBSSports.com
Should have been a no call. Either 1. The defensive player was not established before Lebron made his move. or 2. Same time- meaning a no call. Instead the ref goes with a charge which was the incorrect call. Unusual play and call. Good one to study. Listen, my preference is for the no call. I understand people who can argue for a charge here. I've called charges here with the Def player jumping straight up. My issue is simply that Lebron makes a move to break down the D. The interior D is a split second late. It would be wrong to call it a bad call but my argument is simply that a no call was preferable.

But overall seems people are ok with the refs this game despite some calls here and there.
I kind of wonder if Wade will retire or take a year off after the season...

Originally Posted by mutantducky

I thought it was good D. But not good enough to warrant a charge.
Lebron picks up his dribble just inside the ft line. Hibbert is still moving to position at this point. Its almost bang bang and I give credit for the ref for making the call. But as I said I just feel it should have been a no-call. I have no problem with someone saying it was a charge. This is a type of play that could have gone either way.
My order
1. no call
2. Charge
3. Block

Your deciding point about whether the defender was late or not is simply too early. Under NBA rules, for a defender to have a legal position, he must have his torso in direct path and at the spot before the offensive player starts his upward motion with the ball to shoot or pass...not simply when an offensive player has picked up their dribble. In the clip, if you pause right when it hits 21 seconds, you can see Hibbert got to the spot before LeBron starts going upward with the ball to shoot. This is the deciding point about whether a defender is late or not...not simply when he has picked up his dribble which happened well before. Also, the restricted area does not come into play here as the defender alights in a legitimate attempt to block the shot.

The only options here are a no call or charge. I personally like the charge here.