Pacers vs Heat - Game 5 (Video Request)

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by deecee

Anyone who does that in this instance would be a robot. He took 1/2 - 1 full step in Anderson's direction. Saying his actions and Anderson's are equal is just malarky IMO.

He didn't even move that far...he is knocked down and lands on the free throw line. After standing back up, his feet are never more than about 6" from the free throw line. Anderson takes two full steps - from outside the half circle - and makes the contact with Hansbrough. Like you said - malarkey.

As I already said, maybe Hansbrough said something to deserve the T. Don't know. But unless he did say the magic words, no way did both players deserve the same penalty for that "after the cheap shot" action.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

He didn't even move that far...he is knocked down and lands on the free throw line. After standing back up, his feet are never more than about 6" from the free throw line. Anderson takes two full steps - from outside the half circle - and makes the contact with Hansbrough. Like you said - malarkey.

As I already said, maybe Hansbrough said something to deserve the T. Don't know. But unless he did say the magic words, no way did both players deserve the same penalty for that "after the cheap shot" action.

APG can probably explain the actual rule, but I believe this is a double foul in the NBA where at other levels it would not be. I still see a T on Tyler H, but it would not be a double foul (maybe a false double). And that is why we all do not have the same judgment. Maybe in your game you would call nothing and others would.

Peace

[canuckrefguy]

If Hansbrough gets a T on that play, then Anderson should have been ejected.

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

If Hansbrough gets a T on that play, then Anderson should have been ejected.

Bingo. Here's the breakdown I see.

Hansbrough:
Technical for not walking away/jawing at Anderson

Anderson:
Flagrant 1 for hip-checking Hansbrough
Technical for shoving Hansbrough

Where is Anderson's technical for not walking away/jawing at Hansbrough?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Bingo. Here's the breakdown I see.

Hansbrough:
Technical for not walking away/jawing at Anderson

Anderson:
Flagrant 1 for hip-checking Hansbrough
Technical for shoving Hansbrough

Where is Anderson's technical for not walking away/jawing at Hansbrough?

Um, that is exactly what appears to have happened in this situation. You do not give another T for a shove. Now if you consider one of those other acts as a flagrant 2 act, that is fine.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Bingo. Here's the breakdown I see.

Hansbrough:
Technical for not walking away/jawing at Anderson

Anderson:
Flagrant 1 for hip-checking Hansbrough
Technical for shoving Hansbrough

Where is Anderson's technical for not walking away/jawing at Hansbrough?

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Um, that is exactly what appears to have happened in this situation. You do not give another T for a shove. Now if you consider one of those other acts as a flagrant 2 act, that is fine.

Peace

Why not?

If Hansbrough is getting a T for what he did, the right thing to do is call Anderson for a live ball personal F1 and a dead ball T. The shove was a completely separate act from the initial foul and deserves its own penalty.

[JetMetFan]

Stern tells NBC Sports Radio: Andersen should have been ejected for Hansbrough shove

I can see giving Hansbrough the T. Unless he turns his back or when he's approached Hansbrough keeps his mouth shut he's in danger of getting one. What I can't see is allowing Andersen to stay in the game after the inital contact. The NBA's definition of a FF2 is a foul that's "unecessary and excessive." It's hard to believe that contact wasn't determined to meet both those criteria.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Why not?

If Hansbrough is getting a T for what he did, the right thing to do is call Anderson for a live ball personal F1 and a dead ball T. The shove was a completely separate act from the initial foul and deserves its own penalty.

NBA Rules maybe?

Peace