Pacers vs Heat - Game 5 (Video Request)

[grunewar]

More physicality:

With just over nine minutes left in the 2nd Qtr the Heat's Andersen lowered his shoulder to body check Pacers forward Tyler Hansbrough. After Hansbrough got up, Andersen bumped him and then shoved him. An official rushed over to separate the two. Each received a T. The incident was reviewed and Andersen was assessed an F1 for unnecessary contact.

[Raymond]

He actually knocked Hanbrough down with the first body block. Then he shoved him when they came back together. The combination of those 2 things should have earned him an ejection, IMO. I wouldn't be surprised if Birdman is not in the line-up Saturday night.

In NCAA(FF2)/Fed(FPF), he easily could have been ejected based on the initial body block.

And to top it off he improperly targetted Hanbrough, George is the player who pushed him on the previous play.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

He actually knocked Hanbrough down with the first body block. Then he shoved him when they came back together. The combination of those 2 things should have earned him an ejection, IMO. I wouldn't be surprised if Birdman is not in the line-up Saturday night.

As I figured he has been suspended.

[ballgame99]

Can't believe Hansbrough would be penalized at all for this.

[JRutledge]

Once again, I do not think Tyler H is penalized for a push or not a push. He is penalized (rightfully so) for approaching Birdman and helping escalate the incident. If that happens in a NCAA or NF game I am working, it is an easy decision on my part. Do not tell me folks allow a player to do that and not do anything to them?

Peace

[deecee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Once again, I do not think Tyler H is penalized for a push or not a push. He is penalized (rightfully so) for approaching Birdman and helping escalate the incident. If that happens in a NCAA or NF game I am working, it is an easy decision on my part. Do not tell me folks allow a player to do that and not do anything to them?

Peace

I disagree completely.

Lets look at the facts.

1. Anderson targets Tyler and cheap shots him and knocks him over.
2. Tyler gets up, upset of course (who would have thunk it). And steps towards Anderson's direction. What else is a rational person supposed to do?
3. Anderson squares up with him. Here both Tyler and Anderson are probably sharing words.
4. Anderson shoves him again.
5. Hansboro does not retaliate.

Anderson isn't ejected and I completely disagree with Hansboro's T. If you are going to give a double T in that instance, which I assume for squaring up and talking trash, then hit Anderson with another one for the shove.

But I would have him tossed for the first contact when he took a cheap shot and issued him with a flagrant.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by deecee

I disagree completely.

Lets look at the facts.

1. Anderson targets Tyler and cheap shots him and knocks him over.
2. Tyler gets up, upset of course (who would have thunk it). And steps towards Anderson's direction. What else is a rational person supposed to do?

Walk away.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Adam

Walk away.

Anyone who does that in this instance would be a robot. He took 1/2 - 1 full step in Anderson's direction. Saying his actions and Anderson's are equal is just malarky IMO.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Once again, I do not think Tyler H is penalized for a push or not a push. He is penalized (rightfully so) for approaching Birdman and helping escalate the incident. If that happens in a NCAA or NF game I am working, it is an easy decision on my part. Do not tell me folks allow a player to do that and not do anything to them?

Peace

By "approaching" Anderson, I assume you are referring to the 6 inch step Hansbrough took toward Anderson? If that is "approaching" then you must have a lot of T's in your games...

Now maybe he said something he shouldn't have. Fine, give him the T. But no way did Hansbrough get up and go after Anderson. And to give both of them the same penalty for that altercation is, imo, ridiculous.

My other thought on this is why did it take the official so long to get in there. He blew the whistle on the initial cheap shot move by Anderson, and then just stood out there. Maybe closing in and getting in there could have stopped the rest of this? Maybe not...not sure I would want to get in between those two, but at least get into the area and make your presence known.