2013-2014 NFHS Basketball rule changes

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Do you think that the rule will allow for different colors like the headband/wristband/armband rule? Let's say that many players on Team A, all wearing red jerseys, are wearing white headbands. Several are wearing red wristbands, and several are wearing black arm compression sleeves (for medical reasons). Nobody's wearing any other colors. Everybody's legal? Right?

Unless the rule is going to change, the team has to match in color with the headbands and wristbands. Then the "team" color could be different for an arm sleeve. And unless the rule is clear there could be a different color for compression sleeves on the legs. I just do not know why anyone cares about this?

Peace

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Do you think that the rule will allow for different colors like the headband/wristband/armband rule? Let's say that many players on Team A, all wearing red jerseys, are wearing white headbands. Several are wearing red wristbands, and several are wearing black arm compression sleeves (for medical reasons). Nobody's wearing any other colors. Everybody's legal? Right?

Nope, the headbands and wristbands must be the same color.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Next thing we are going to say is the shoes and socks should match.

Full length tights? Illegal.
Compression shorts? Legal if above the knee and single color similar to color of the shorts.
Undergarments? Legal if they don't extend below the shorts.
Leg sleeves? Legal for medical reasons with color restrictions.
Socks? No rules, even if they go from the player's feet all the way up underneath the player's shorts. Socks (below) are legal.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The team has to match in color with the headbands and wristbands.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Nope, the headbands and wristbands must be the same color.

Says who?

3-5-4-A: Headbands and wristbands shall be white, black, beige or a single solid school color and shall be the same color for each item and all participants.

"Same color for each item."

Not, same color for both items.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Full length tights? Illegal.
Compression shorts? Legal if above the knee and single color similar to color of the shorts.
Undergarments? Legal if they don't extend below the shorts.
Leg sleeves? Legal for medical reasons with color restrictions.

Socks? No rules, even if they go from the player's feet all the way up underneath the player's shorts. Socks (below) are legal.

Billy I am very aware of the rule. And there was once a rule about socks and the logo and I remember the silliness the NF has worried about when it comes to uniforms. I just think it is silly and open up all kinds of problems. And once again this is why there needs to be people that actually officiate or are active to make these decisions. I cannot think of any official that loves worrying about these things when we are out there to work a game. It is an annoyance at best that it even has to be addressed and mostly done out of fear that someone not associated with the game will come down on us for ignoring the rule.

Peace

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Says who?

3-5-4-A: Headbands and wristbands shall be white, black, beige or a single solid school color and shall be the same color for each item and all participants.

"Same color for each item."

Not, same color for both items.

Maybe you need to go back and look at the NF slides when the rule was changed or look at the Simplified and Illustrated Book, because it is clear that you cannot have one color for a head band and someone else wears a wristband of a different color.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Maybe you need to go back and look at the NF slides when the rule was changed or look at the Simplified and Illustrated Book, because it is clear that you cannot have one color for a head band and someone else wears a wristband of a different color.

I am not, repeat, am not, questioning your integrity, but I would love to see these.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Silliness ... Silly ... Annoyance.

Powerful words.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I am not, repeat, am not, questioning your integrity, but I would love to see these.

Just put my check in the mail.

3.5.4 SITUATION: Team A’s school colors are blue and gold and the predomi- nate color of Team A’s jerseys are white. Prior to the game, an official notices that several Team A members are wearing (a) blue headbands and blue wristbands; or (b) beige pre-wrap around the entire head and blue wristbands. RULING: Legal in (a). Illegal equipment in (b); the headband color does not match the wristband color. The official shall inform the player and the head coach that these items are illegal and may not be worn during the game.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I am not, repeat, am not, questioning your integrity, but I would love to see these.

JRutledge and Nevadaref. I apologize. It appears that you are correct, headbands must be the same color as wristbands, according to this casebook play:

3.5.4 SITUATION: Team A’s school colors are blue and gold and the predominate color of Team A’s jerseys are white. Prior to the game, an official notices that several Team A members are wearing beige pre-wrap around the entire head and blue wristbands. RULING: Illegal equipment in ; the headband color does not match the wristband color. The official shall inform the player and the head coach that these items are illegal and may not be worn during the game.

Yet another instance where the wording of the rule doesn't match the casebook play.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Just put my check in the mail.

It's already in the mail. I would still like to see the NFHS slide when the rule was changed, or the illustration in the the Simplified and Illustrated Book.

I also believe that the wording in the actual rule must be changed.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

JRutledge and Nevadaref. I apologize. It appears that you are correct, headbands must be the same color as wristbands, according to this casebook play:

3.5.4 SITUATION: Team A’s school colors are blue and gold and the predominate color of Team A’s jerseys are white. Prior to the game, an official notices that several Team A members are wearing beige pre-wrap around the entire head and blue wristbands. RULING: Illegal equipment in ; the headband color does not match the wristband color. The official shall inform the player and the head coach that these items are illegal and may not be worn during the game.

Yet another instance where the wording of the rule doesn't match the casebook play.

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Sorry I cannot tell you the exact page of the slide shows, but this was a NF slide that shows what the intent of the rule is.

And Billy I would think you would know that the rulebook tells you what the rule says, the casebook tells you how to apply the rule. I think you read too much into the situation and what the rule meant. This was cleared up a long time ago.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

This was cleared up a long time ago.

So it was an issue at one time in the past? I think that I was absent the day that it was cleared up. I had the flu. Yeah. That's it. Absent. Now I don't feel so foolish. I still feel foolish, but not as foolish.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

So it was an issue at one time in the past? I think that I was absent the day that it was cleared up. I had the flu. Yeah. That's it. Absent. Now I don't feel so foolish. I still feel foolish, but not as foolish.

No. It was clearly the intent of the rule from the very beginning, you must have missed it if you did not realize this was out there. Or maybe IAABO does not do a good job of informing you guys of the change when it took place. So no this was never something anyone I have ever come in contact was confused by if they were properly informed.

Peace