2013-2014 NFHS Basketball rule changes

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NFHS | Basketball Rules Changes Address Allowance of Head Coaches on Court

[Adam]

So they still aren't going to fix the team control mess.

[rekent]

Originally Posted by Adam

So they still aren't going to fix the team control mess.

But they can expand the fashion police state!! Which will probably not cut down on the use of sleeves like they want because it will be just like the arm ones now.

[JRutledge]

Forgive me, but what Team Control mess?

I hate the fact they now have added color restrictions to leggings or sleeves. Now that is going to harder to comply with as it will take players longer to correct that problem. Why should we care about what color for these items. Next thing we are going to say is the shoes and socks should match.

Peace

[rekent]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Forgive me, but what Team Control mess?

I hate the fact they now have added color restrictions to leggings or sleeves. Now that is going to harder to comply with as it will take players longer to correct that problem. Why should we care about what color for these items. Next thing we are going to say is the shoes and socks should match.

Peace

I'm guessing he meant TC while inbounding the ball, and the ambiguities they created there.

Other than color, in practice this won't change the use of the sleeves like they want, will it? "Coach, is your team property equipped?" "Yep." same as with the arm ones.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rekent

I'm guessing he meant TC while inbounding the ball, and the ambiguities they created there.

Other than color, in practice this won't change the use of the sleeves like they want, will it? "Coach, is your team property equipped?" "Yep." same as with the arm ones.

I would agree that maybe they could change some language, but I do not see that as a major problem. Then again this is like the horse-collar rule in football where the NF did not want to adopt the entire rule of the other levels to seem to stay independent. Then it took them 3 years to get the rule ultimately right.

And I did have to spend some time this year to get teams to have one of their players remove an arm-sleeve in order to comply. I know that if the rule was the same we would spend time trying to get players on the same page. Now I am hoping that the rule does not require all arm-sleeves and leg sleeves to be the same color. I think we would get more blowback for the leg sleeves and might expose some full length leggings in the process. At least and arm sleeve takes a second to remove.

Peace

I guess I will have to start packing a ruler to make sure the manufacturers logo is no bigger than 2-1/4 inches.

Or just wait until someone watching on tv phones in and lets me know they violated the uniform rules.

[BayStateRef]

Finally made the iPad legal on the bench for coaching and stats. Just don't talk to players with it...and don't call me over and say, "Hey ref. Take a look at how badly you blew that call."

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I guess I will have to start packing a ruler to make sure the manufacturers logo is no bigger than 2-1/4 inches.

Or just wait until someone watching on tv phones in and lets me know they violated the uniform rules.

The rule has always (well, 10 years or so) been 2 1/4 inches. It's allowing the logo on the jersey that's new.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Forgive me, but what Team Control mess?

I hate the fact they now have added color restrictions to leggings or sleeves. Now that is going to harder to comply with as it will take players longer to correct that problem. Why should we care about what color for these items. Next thing we are going to say is the shoes and socks should match.

Peace

The fact that the team control rule does not say what they want it to mean, and when officials start reading the rule book, they're going to make rulings that were never intended by the change.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Next thing we are going to say is the shoes and socks should match.

Full length tights? Illegal.
Compression shorts? Legal if above the knee and single color similar to color of the shorts.
Undergarments? Legal if they don't extend below the shorts.
Leg sleeves? Legal for medical reasons with color restrictions.
Socks? No rules, even if they go from the player's feet all the way up underneath the player's shorts. Socks (below) are legal.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Full length tights? Illegal.
Compression shorts? Legal if above the knee and single color similar to color of the shorts.
Undergarments? Legal if they don't extend below the shorts.
Leg sleeves? Legal for medical reasons with color restrictions.

Socks? No rules, even if they go from the player's feet all the way up underneath the player's shorts. Socks (below) are legal.

Billy I am very aware of the rule. And there was once a rule about socks and the logo and I remember the silliness the NF has worried about when it comes to uniforms. I just think it is silly and open up all kinds of problems. And once again this is why there needs to be people that actually officiate or are active to make these decisions. I cannot think of any official that loves worrying about these things when we are out there to work a game. It is an annoyance at best that it even has to be addressed and mostly done out of fear that someone not associated with the game will come down on us for ignoring the rule.

Peace

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Socks? No rules, even if they go from the player's feet all the way up underneath the player's shorts. Socks (below) are legal.

No sock rule in NFHS but NCAA does have one:

3-8-1 A single manufacturer’s or distributor’s normal logo, label or trademark meeting the size restrictions of 3-8.2 is permitted once on the game jersey, once on the game pants and once on all other items of apparel excluding the undershirt.

Which means only one namufacturer's logo is allowed on socks as well as all other itms other than undershirts. I've heard tell of this being enforced as far as the socks are concerned. My NCAAW assignor reminds us every February to keep the rule in mind, mainly to get schools used to it during the NCAAs. It could be the most hated rule in the book.