Pac-12 Officiating

[rockyroad]

Guess I need to type slowly for a few of us to understand what I am saying...I have not argued the numbers. But the numbers really don't matter - there are way more D-1 schools "back east" so they need way more D-1 officials "back east". Hopefully we can all agree on that. But that does not mean that the Pac-12 officials are somehow deficient or not as good as people who work the SEC or ACC or Big East...

I appreciate tomegun's comments as he has been in multiple places and seen officiating at the various levels. But I don't think that he is saying that there aren't any good officials in the Pac. He can correct me if I am wrong.

As far as being "offended" by someone supposedly pointing out a deficiency, that's just a stupid comment. Not really surprising considering...but first - not offended by anyone else's opinion. It's a discussion forum where we discuss opinions. And so far the only "deficiency" pointed out has been that there are more people living in the "east" than the "west". That's not a deficiency - it's a reason to live out here.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Guess I need to type slowly for a few of us to understand what I am saying...I have not argued the numbers. But the numbers really don't matter - there are way more D-1 schools "back east" so they need way more D-1 officials "back east". Hopefully we can all agree on that. But that does not mean that the Pac-12 officials are somehow deficient or not as good as people who work the SEC or ACC or Big East...

It can if those top officials are only top officials by taking a completely different route to the top. If officials have more competition and see better basketball overall in one part of the country as compared to another part of the country, I think that could influence who overall is better. Can a west coast official work every night of the week the way a guy in the Midwest and East Coast official while not working every top conference during that week? I do not know the answer to that question, just asking.

Originally Posted by rockyroad

I appreciate tomegun's comments as he has been in multiple places and seen officiating at the various levels. But I don't think that he is saying that there aren't any good officials in the Pac. He can correct me if I am wrong.

Maybe I am wrong, but I do not recall anyone saying here that there were no good officials in the Pac 12.

Originally Posted by rockyroad

As far as being "offended" by someone supposedly pointing out a deficiency, that's just a stupid comment. Not really surprising considering...but first - not offended by anyone else's opinion. It's a discussion forum where we discuss opinions. And so far the only "deficiency" pointed out has been that there are more people living in the "east" than the "west". That's not a deficiency - it's a reason to live out here

Well that depends on what you value I guess.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Guess I need to type slowly for a few of us to understand what I am saying...I have not argued the numbers. But the numbers really don't matter - there are way more D-1 schools "back east" so they need way more D-1 officials "back east". Hopefully we can all agree on that. But that does not mean that the Pac-12 officials are somehow deficient or not as good as people who work the SEC or ACC or Big East...

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I'll go back to my point which has to do with D1 coaches. D1 coaches like to know that the officials who work their games are guys who also work other major conferences want to use for their big games. Really has nothing to do with quality. They want to feel comfortable that at least one of the guys working their game that night is the cream of the crop across the country and they get that confirmation by seeing that guy working a big TV game in another conference.

My take on this issue has nothing to do with "difficiencies" or "West Coast vs. East Coast".

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I'll go back to my point which has to do with D1 coaches. D1 coaches like to know that the officials who work their games are guys who also work other major conferences want to use for their big games. Really has nothing to do with quality. They want to feel comfortable that at least one of the guys working their game that night is the cream of the crop across the country and they get that confirmation by seeing that guy working a big TV game in another conference.

My take on this issue has nothing to do with "difficiencies" or "West Coast vs. East Coast".

Ok. That's a valid point. My counter would be that the PAC officials are also working WCC games like Gonzaga vs St. Mary, etc...or working the MWC games or Big Sky games - all of which are televised out here after Ll you guys have gone to bed. So they do see their officials working other games in other venues, just not ACC or SEC or whatever.