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RefAHallic Tue May 07, 2013 06:40pm

Pac-12 Officiating
 
Didn't remember reading it here. The link below gives some insight into what the coaches want in a new Super of Officials. Seems the coaches feel there is some sort of West Coast bias with "big name" officials.

Pac-12 coaches discuss league's officiating mess - college basketball - ESPN

Adam Tue May 07, 2013 06:53pm

Coaches always think there's a bias against them. Geno thinks the officials are biased against male coaches, for example. The deck is always stacked, and it's never in my favor.

Nevadaref Tue May 07, 2013 07:00pm

The PAC12 coaches have no idea what or who they want.

"We want to get someone who can attract more quality to work our league. The ones we have are very good.''

Absolute nonsense. Why is there a pressing need to attract more top officials who normally work east of the Mississippi, if the ones that they have now are very good?

That article lacks any substance.

JRutledge Tue May 07, 2013 07:12pm

Well some people feel that the Pac 10/12 has had some of the worst staffs of all of the major conferences. Now that might be true or not, but guys out East are not going out west unless you give them more money to work those games. Or give them a lot of double dip opportunities working the Pac 12 and then a minor conference on an "off night."

Peace

rockyroad Tue May 07, 2013 09:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 893192)
Well some people feel that the Pac 10/12 has had some of the worst staffs of all of the major conferences. Now that might be true or not, but guys out East are not going out west unless you give them more money to work those games. Or give them a lot of double dip opportunities working the Pac 12 and then a minor conference on an "off night."

Peace

So let them stay out east. The PAC 12 doesn't need them.

johnny d Tue May 07, 2013 10:50pm

Apparently, the pac 12 coaches would disagree with you rocky.

ODJ Tue May 07, 2013 11:17pm

Bring back Richie Ballesteros and Booker Turner.

Not Mark Reisling.

Camron Rust Wed May 08, 2013 01:04am

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnny d (Post 893213)
Apparently, the pac 12 coaches would disagree with you rocky.

They may, but every conference's coaches think some other conference has better referees.

JetMetFan Wed May 08, 2013 06:55am

So...Pac 12 coaches don't think officials on the East Coast have families, too?

Seven of the 32 D-I conferences have schools in the Western and Mountain time zones (along with two independents). If I live in the Eastern or Central time zones, why the heck would I want to travel that far when I have tons of games thousands of miles closer to me? The Deadspin article posted during the tournament quoted Ed Corbett as saying the travel is the worst part for him and he's generally just going up and down the eastern seaboard. The money the Pac 12 schools would have to fork over for an Eastern guy to go out there would be prohibitive.

Raymond Wed May 08, 2013 07:47am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 893236)
So...Pac 12 coaches don't think officials on the East Coast have families, too?

Seven of the 32 D-I conferences have schools in the Western and Mountain time zones (along with two independents). If I live in the Eastern or Central time zones, why the heck would I want to travel that far when I have tons of games thousands of miles closer to me? The Deadspin article posted during the tournament quoted Ed Corbett as saying the travel is the worst part for him and he's generally just going up and down the eastern seaboard. The money the Pac 12 schools would have to fork over for an Eastern guy to go out there would be prohibitive.

They probably want some of Curtis Shaw's big dawgs and maybe some of the Big 10 officials who live west of the Mississippi. Can't see any Eastern Seaboard officials taking up with the PAC 12. Though Tom Eades worked in the PAC 12 this past season.

big jake Wed May 08, 2013 08:51am

I would think with the changes at the SEC that some of the ones that left might return. I hope Eades gets over his health problems and is back next year. No need for him to go across the country to call a game when there many in his zip code that he can call.

Bad Zebra Wed May 08, 2013 09:53am

This sounds like the coaches simply want what the other power conferences have. They could be the worst officials in D1 ball...but they would still want them just because they work in the east and likely can't have them.

It feeds into the notion of "east coast bias" and the Pac-whatever is desperate for respect and return to glory...so they have to get those big name east coast guys.

Nonsense. I don't believe for a second that they don't already have officials that are equivalent to the Big Ten, Big East or SEC already filling their rosters. All they're interested in is well known names. It's not a quality issue at all.

Toren Wed May 08, 2013 10:34am

Are the names in the Pac 12 not big enough?

You got Dave Hall, Verne Harris, Randy McCall, Greg Nixon, I could go on and on, top guys that go deep into the tourney every year.

I'm sure this is a ploy by coaches to get the eye off their back because they're losing the race on recruiting top 10 guys to east coast teams.

Nevadaref Wed May 08, 2013 10:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ODJ (Post 893216)
Bring back Richie Ballesteros and Booker Turner.

Not Mark Reisling.

Booker "UCLA" Turner.
Look up the Bruins' record in games he officiated.

Raymond Wed May 08, 2013 12:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toren (Post 893261)
Are the names in the Pac 12 not big enough?

You got Dave Hall, Verne Harris, Randy McCall, Greg Nixon, I could go on and on, top guys that go deep into the tourney every year.

I'm sure this is a ploy by coaches to get the eye off their back because they're losing the race on recruiting top 10 guys to east coast teams.

I think what they are seeing are guys who work in the ACC and/or SEC and/or Big East and/or Big 10 and/or Big XII. With the PAC 12 big dawgs there isn't nearly the crossover with other major conferences.


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