Violation for Voluntarily Running Out of Bounds

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by rekent

How often do you all see/call the violation for running out of bounds?

I saw it 4-5 times in one night going under a screen set near the end line, but was under mandate not to call it. Just wondering how often it actually gets called compared to how often it is seen...

Just out of curiosity, why were you under a mandate not to call it and who gave the mandate?

[MD Longhorn]

This was similar to my initial thought... the mandate to not call it is a good part of the reason you're seeing it. Where it gets called, it doesn't happen often.

[brainbrian]

Saw a player step out of bounds to avoid a 3-second call once.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by brainbrian

Saw a player step out of bounds to avoid a 3-second call once.

I don't have a citation, but I was taught that that was never a legal tactic for player to avoid a three second violation, and, if three seconds had passed, to just call the three second violation rather than the intentionally going out of bounds violation.

Anybody remember something similar? Anybody got an old citation? Anybody know where my car keys are?

[BillyMac]

This is from my Misunderstood Basketball Rules list:

"It’s a violation for a player to step out of bounds in an attempt to avoid a three second violation."

Is it a three second violation (assuming three seconds have passed), or is it an intentionally going out of bounds violation, (assuming that three seconds have not passed)?

[bob jenkins]

It is, or was, in the case book. Did you try looking there?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

It is, or was, in the case book. Did you try looking there?

9.3.3 SITUATION A: A1 receives a pass while in the restricted area of the lane.
A1 passes the ball to A2 outside the three-point line. In order to get the three-second
count stopped, A1 steps directly out of bounds under A's basket. RULING:
A1 is charged with a violation for leaving the court for an unauthorized reason.(9-7)

Was it always a leaving the court for an unauthorized reason violation, or was it ever a three second violation?

[JRutledge]

I will say it was called in a playoff game that I worked and the same official called it twice. I went back to see if these situations were there on the tape and I could not tell even if or who went out of bounds. And all it did was raise more questions than solve an issue. I have no problem with anyone calling it if it is obvious. If someone just barely steps on the line, I would give that a pass just as I would with someone calling 3 seconds with a player whose heal is slightly on the line. Because I know I am hardly looking that closely at this violations as opposed to some contact or the reasons for the contact. Otherwise I do not see many obvious violations of this rule.

Peace

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If someone just barely steps on the line, I would give that a pass

Seems to me that if someone just barely steps on the line, they've not violated anything anyway. They did not "leave the court for unauthorized reasons".

[rockyroad]

I have called it once...as L in the wide angle position, kid ran behind me going from corner to corner. Pretty much had to call that one.

[Nevadaref]

I see it two or three times a season and I call it two or three times a season.
I believe in calling the game according to the rules.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I believe in calling the game according to the rules.

What a novel idea. Do you think it will catch on?

[BayStateRef]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I see it two or three times a season and I call it two or three times a season.
I believe in calling the game according to the rules.

Ditto. I called it twice this season.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I see it two or three times a season and I call it two or three times a season.
I believe in calling the game according to the rules.

I'm just curious, did you call it that often when it was penalized by a technical foul?

[#olderthanilook]

On more than one occassion in several games this past season, I've verbally told players to stay on the court as they ran the baseline (avoiding screens).