Violation for Voluntarily Running Out of Bounds

[rekent]

How often do you all see/call the violation for running out of bounds?

I saw it 4-5 times in one night going under a screen set near the end line, but was under mandate not to call it. Just wondering how often it actually gets called compared to how often it is seen...

[just another ref]

I've called it once or twice since the rule change.

[JRutledge]

I called it once I believe. Maybe twice.

Peace

[rekent]

Have you all only seen it that number of times, or that is just the number of times you have actually called it?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rekent

Have you all only seen it that number of times, or that is just the number of times you have actually called it?

Actually very rarely see it. At least not where is is so obvious it should be called IMO.

Peace

[just another ref]

You see it, you call it. Why wouldn't you?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

You see it, you call it. Why wouldn't you?

Because you want to keep progressing, and you were instructed not to call it to the letter of the rule. Same reason you don't call three seconds everytime you see a player in the paint for three seconds.

[Adam]

I see it just a couple times a season, really. I've called it once, but it was obvious and an easy sell since the player was in the middle of an interrupted dribble when he did it.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by rekent

How often do you all see/call the violation for running out of bounds?

I saw it 4-5 times in one night going under a screen set near the end line, but was under mandate not to call it. Just wondering how often it actually gets called compared to how often it is seen...

Well, since the rest of us work where the rule is in force we don't see it as much. If you're in a league where you ignore the violation of course it's going to occur all the time.

There is no way to logically compare our situations with yours.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by rekent

How often do you all see/call the violation for running out of bounds?

I saw it 4-5 times in one night going under a screen set near the end line, but was under mandate not to call it. Just wondering how often it actually gets called compared to how often it is seen...

Just out of curiosity, why were you under a mandate not to call it and who gave the mandate?

[MD Longhorn]

This was similar to my initial thought... the mandate to not call it is a good part of the reason you're seeing it. Where it gets called, it doesn't happen often.

[brainbrian]

Saw a player step out of bounds to avoid a 3-second call once.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by brainbrian

Saw a player step out of bounds to avoid a 3-second call once.

I don't have a citation, but I was taught that that was never a legal tactic for player to avoid a three second violation, and, if three seconds had passed, to just call the three second violation rather than the intentionally going out of bounds violation.

Anybody remember something similar? Anybody got an old citation? Anybody know where my car keys are?

[BillyMac]

This is from my Misunderstood Basketball Rules list:

"It’s a violation for a player to step out of bounds in an attempt to avoid a three second violation."

Is it a three second violation (assuming three seconds have passed), or is it an intentionally going out of bounds violation, (assuming that three seconds have not passed)?

[JRutledge]

I will say it was called in a playoff game that I worked and the same official called it twice. I went back to see if these situations were there on the tape and I could not tell even if or who went out of bounds. And all it did was raise more questions than solve an issue. I have no problem with anyone calling it if it is obvious. If someone just barely steps on the line, I would give that a pass just as I would with someone calling 3 seconds with a player whose heal is slightly on the line. Because I know I am hardly looking that closely at this violations as opposed to some contact or the reasons for the contact. Otherwise I do not see many obvious violations of this rule.

Peace