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Old Mon Apr 22, 2013, 12:12pm
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It took me a couple times of reading this to realize you meant "throw-ins".
good point, and edited.
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Old Mon Apr 22, 2013, 12:29pm
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We need to put on some shorts and act these out

Seriously, how funny would they be????

I have all three as violations since team control does not change on deflections. It's a classic case of someone jumping from their front court, catching in mid-air, and landing in their back court. The second they touch it, they have front court status and land in the back court. Violation.
There are exceptions for this. One of these plays is very clearly an exception.
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On a throw in there's no "offense" or "defense" so both are held to the same rule. Once the ball is in play, the offense can (in theory) control where the ball goes, so the defense gets an "extra" exception.

And, whether the "defensive exception" applied during the throw-in process was a big debate here for a couple of years until the FED clarified. It's now been 5? years since this was "settled."
I remember them clarifying to exclude all but the three (defense, jump ball, throw in) rather than expanding to include all situations where team control is established by an airborne player moving from FC to BC (such as a long rebound). So the exceptions now only apply to those three situations.

What I don't recall is any official interpretation or case play that clarifies the defensive exception does not apply during a throw-in. Seems to me the defensive exception would apply in the case of a throw-in pass being tipped and then caught be a defender mid-jump from FC to BC.
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Old Mon Apr 22, 2013, 12:41pm
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What I don't recall is any official interpretation or case play that clarifies the defensive exception does not apply during a throw-in. Seems to me the defensive exception would apply in the case of a throw-in pass being tipped and then caught be a defender mid-jump from FC to BC.
This is the discussion I remember but I don't remember a resolution.

I was on the side of the argument that a tipped throw-in doesn't end the defensive exception.
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Old Mon Apr 22, 2013, 12:47pm
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seems to me like the case book needs about a half dozen more examples to clarify this rule..
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Why is the rule different for plays started on the court and plays started out of bounds?
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Seems to me like the case book needs about a half dozen more examples to clarify this rule.
Many Forum members are still scratching their heads about the two year old rule change regarding team control during a throw-in vis-à-vis backcourt violations.
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