Rutgers fires basketball coach after release of video showing player abuse, gay slurs

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

Not to mention, the governor of NJ is weighing in and is demanding answers

First of all, +100 points for using "weighing in" ... +500 if you didn't even mean to

Maybe he will go to the school himself to investigate ... they'll know it's him because of his fleece.

[bainsey]

[#olderthanilook]

What a great clip. It's unscripted, uncut and obviously from the heart.

It's rare that the public gets to see this type of genuine apology from a public figure like this.

Best wishes to him as he puts his life and career back together. He'll be a better husband, father and coach for having walked down this pathway with such honesty and accountability.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

What a great clip. It's unscripted, uncut and obviously from the heart.

It's rare that the public gets to see this type of genuine apology from a public figure like this.

Best wishes to him as he puts his life and career back together. He'll be a better husband, father and coach for having walked down this pathway with such honesty and accountability.

I'm going to assume this is not sarcasm.

I had a chance to get to know Rice a little bit during my coaching days when I worked several Eastern Invitational camps when Rice was the director there. He's also a friend of the guy whose staff I was on.

He can be really fun to have a few beers with and hang around for a while and there seems to be a decent guy in there somewhere but I am not all that surprised to see him lose control and let his intensity get the best of him.

He is one of those people that is just always "on." Every other word out of his mouth is a F bomb. It's how he talks to everybody.

All that said, the behavior on tape is just inexcusable at any level. He definitely has some issues that need professional help/attention. I hope he's getting it.

Unfortunately, I don't see how any school can hire him ANY time soon with this tape out there. I hope he can stay connected to the game b/c he does have a true passion for basketball and really knows the game. But this tape is going to hang over his head for the rest of his life....

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

I'm going to assume this is not sarcasm.

I had a chance to get to know Rice a little bit during my coaching days when I worked several Eastern Invitational camps when Rice was the director there. He's also a friend of the guy whose staff I was on.

He can be really fun to have a few beers with and hang around for a while and there seems to be a decent guy in there somewhere but I am not all that surprised to see him lose control and let his intensity get the best of him.

He is one of those people that is just always "on." Every other word out of his mouth is a F bomb. It's how he talks to everybody.

All that said, the behavior on tape is just inexcusable at any level. He definitely has some issues that need professional help/attention. I hope he's getting it.

Unfortunately, I don't see how any school can hire him ANY time soon with this tape out there. I hope he can stay connected to the game b/c he does have a true passion for basketball and really knows the game. But this tape is going to hang over his head for the rest of his life....

You assumed correctly.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

You assumed correctly.

Cool. I thought so but you never know these days.

And I agree with you 100% and wish Rice the best.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

Unfortunately, I don't see how any school can hire him ANY time soon with this tape out there. I hope he can stay connected to the game b/c he does have a true passion for basketball and really knows the game. But this tape is going to hang over his head for the rest of his life....

At least he came out publicly and owned up to the behavior. I disagree...I think somebody somewhere will hire him....Texas Tech took Bobby Knight despite the carnage he left behind at Indiana. Heck, now he's making Applebees commercials and working at ESPN. Not bad for a coach who was the poster boy for inappropriate behavior.

Chances are Rice's behavior will be exemplary at his next gig.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

At least he came out publicly and owned up to the behavior. I disagree...I think somebody somewhere will hire him....Texas Tech took Bobby Knight despite the carnage he left behind at Indiana. Heck, now he's making Applebees commercials and working at ESPN. Not bad for a coach who was the poster boy for inappropriate behavior.

Chances are Rice's behavior will be exemplary at his next gig.

I would not compare Bobby Knight to Rice on any level For one Knight was only accused of one incident and acted like most coaches at the time. And most of all Knight won 3 titles. Rice cannot even win the Big East Conference Title and is seen in multiple situations throwing stuff at players and hitting them in the head with a basketball. Also it does not help that he called them gay slurs. Not even close.

Peace

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I would not compare Bobby Knight to Rice on any level For one Knight was only accused of one incident and acted like most coaches at the time. And most of all Knight won 3 titles. Rice cannot even win the Big East Conference Title and is seen in multiple situations throwing stuff at players and hitting them in the head with a basketball. Also it does not help that he called them gay slurs. Not even close.

Peace

Throwing chairs......kicking his son (a player)...throwing flower pots and cursing at and around secretaries...grabbing students and putting them in headlocks...to name a FEW that were made public.

A few titles will get you some leeway but let's not pretend he wasn't a total jerk the same as Rice. I don't buy that any/all other coaches acted like that at the time. I see Rice and Knight's behavior as equally egregious. And further...Knight never offered even the slightest appearance of remorse. Yeah. It is close.

All I'm saying is: If Knight managed to survive, my bet is that Rice will too.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Knight was only accused of one incident

Bwaaaahaaaaa! Good one! Funniest thing I've read all year.

[zebraman]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I would not compare Bobby Knight to Rice on any level For one Knight was only accused of one incident and acted like most coaches at the time. And most of all Knight won 3 titles. Rice cannot even win the Big East Conference Title and is seen in multiple situations throwing stuff at players and hitting them in the head with a basketball. Also it does not help that he called them gay slurs. Not even close.

Peace

Bobby Knight has made plenty of inappropriate comments. One that comes to mind is one he made when being interviewed by Connie Chung. He was talking about some perceived bad calls made by officials and he said, ""I think that if rape is inevitable, relax and enjoy it." Women's groups were outraged. If he said that on a national telecast that he knew that everyone would see, I can only imagine what he said off camera. I think that if Bobby Knight's Indiana career had been when everyone had a video camera on their phone, we would have seen similar footage to the Rutgers incident. And who cares how many wins he had...... that is completely irrelevant to this topic about how kids are treated.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

He is one of those people that is just always "on." Every other word out of his mouth is a F bomb. It's how he talks to everybody.

VaTerp: Why are you talking about Jim Calhoun? He's retired. Wait? I'm being told that VaTerp is actually talking about Mike Rice. Never mind.

[maroonx]

It had to be done. Sad situation for my Alma Mater. If he was winning, I wonder if he would have any supporters.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

He'll be a better husband, father and coach for having walked down this pathway with such honesty and accountability.

I'm certain this guy is more sorry for losing his job -- and potentially his career -- than for what he did.

You don't reach that level of coaching without being told you need to work on your behavior. And, if the behavior is as extreme as Rice's, I'm sure he's been told over and over and over again. For whatever reasons, be it his continued employment or career ascension, he chose not to heed those warnings.

Bottom line: Look where it got him.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Brad

First of all, +100 points for using "weighing in" ... +500 if you didn't even mean to

Maybe he will go to the school himself to investigate ... they'll know it's him because of his fleece.

I swear that fleece looks like something you'd buy at one of those crappy "personalize your stuff" stores.