Louisville-Baylor unsporting situations

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

Agreed. Now Baylor gets to wonder why they don't get a warning, too.

And if they had T'd one of the best players, then they probably do not have to give a T later to the HC. Now they know you mean business and things do not escalate. I am actually surprised by the restraint Griner showed in that game.

Peace

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And if they had T'd one of the best players, then they probably do not have to give a T later to the HC. Now they know you mean business and things do not escalate. I am actually surprised by the restraint Griner showed in that game.

Peace

Agreed.

And another reason why I completely disagree with OKREF's take on the game. There is a huge difference between being physically dominant based on sheer size and athletic ability and being purposely physical in style of play.

The L-Ville coach came in with a calculated strategy to take a bunch of 3s, get physical with Griner, and turn the game into a street fight. It was a great coaching move and his team shot the ball incredibly well. The deserved to win and Baylor did not respond as well as they should have and deserved to lose.

That said, I think the officials did a very poor job of controlling the game and not letting much of the illegal physicality and resulting emotions escalate.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

Agreed.

And another reason why I completely disagree with OKREF's take on the game. There is a huge difference between being physically dominant based on sheer size and athletic ability and being purposely physical in style of play.

The L-Ville coach came in with a calculated strategy to take a bunch of 3s, get physical with Griner, and turn the game into a street fight. It was a great coaching move and his team shot the ball incredibly well. The deserved to win and Baylor did not respond as well as they should have and deserved to lose.

That said, I think the officials did a very poor job of controlling the game and not letting much of the illegal physicality and resulting emotions escalate.

I agree with everything you just said. I have never said any different.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by OKREF

I agree with everything you just said. I have never said any different.

Actually, you did say something different.....

Originally Posted by OKREF

I just think that Mulkey complaining about the game being to physical is the pot calling the kettle black, when she had the most dominating physcial player ever in the womens game. That's all.

As I stated, there is a huge difference between being physically dominant based on size and athletic ability and being physical in style of play. So to say that Mulkey shouldn't complain about physical play just because she has a player that is physically dominant based on her natural size and ability is wrong IMO.

That's the type of mentality that leads to some officials allowing bigger players to get beat up just b/c of their size.

I won't pretend that I watch a lot of women's basketball (other than Skylar Diggins ) but whenever I watch Griner I don't see a player being extremely physical. I see a player who has decent footwork, post moves, and touch, who uses her size and length to get position and shoot over people.

And you also seem to gloss over the taunt by the L-ville player saying that what the Baylor player did was worse. I just don't see how you come to that conclusion.

[Lcubed48]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

Agreed.

And another reason why I completely disagree with OKREF's take on the game. There is a huge difference between being physically dominant based on sheer size and athletic ability and being purposely physical in style of play.

The L-Ville coach came in with a calculated strategy to take a bunch of 3s, get physical with Griner, and turn the game into a street fight. It was a great coaching move and his team shot the ball incredibly well. The deserved to win and Baylor did not respond as well as they should have and deserved to lose.

That said, I think the officials did a very poor job of controlling the game and not letting much of the illegal physicality and resulting emotions escalate.

+1000 %. That's was my take watching the game. I couldn't say it any better.

[ref3808]

I don't know what sort of guidance is given to NCAA-W officials, but under Fed I'm going with a T for the Louisville player getting in BG's face.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by ref3808

I don't know what sort of guidance is given to NCAA-W officials, but under Fed I'm going with a T for the Louisville player getting in BG's face.

I'm not sure what you mean by "guidance" but believe me, we're told more than often enough to take care of business on stuff like that.

[ref3808]

Originally Posted by ref3808

I don't know what sort of guidance is given to NCAA-W officials, but under Fed I'm going with a T for the Louisville player getting in BG's face.

Just allowing for the fact that I don't know a lot about officiating expectations in NCAA-W.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by ref3808

Just allowing for the fact that I don't know a lot about officiating expectations in NCAA-W.

Understood. One of the sections of our preseason NCAA clinic focused on sportsmanship. The feeling was players and coaches were getting away with too much unsporting behavior, be it towards us or the opposition. The message was repeated in January so I'm guessing our collective enforcement wasn't what the powers that be had hoped it would be.

I'm very lucky. My supervisor is very clear that she'll support us in handing out Ts to players or coaches as long as we've taken care of business beforehand. To a certain extent I think she encourages us...not in an Ed Rush way though

[rbmartin]

The problem is that this type of behavior has been tolerated (and even sometimes encouraged via ESPN etc) at the highest level (NBA) for a few years now. You cannot watch Sportscenter without seeing a "staredown" after a dunk. Unfortunately this cancer has metastasized to the college ranks, first at the men’s level and now at the ladies level. Soon we will be witnessing this at 6th grade games. Please ladies and gentlemen, put a stop to this type of behavior at all levels.

[maroonx]

I thought the officials made the right decision with the taunting and double technicals. I had the exact same thing in a high school game this year.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by maroonx

I thought the officials made the right decision with the taunting and double technicals. I had the exact same thing in a high school game this year.

You don't think the first taunting incident should have been called?

This is one of the clearest examples of a skip-the-warning technical you'll see, IMO.