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Old Wed Apr 03, 2013, 11:18am
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Louisville-Baylor unsporting situations

This is two plays: the +1 by Schimmel where she goes at it with Griner and the double technical. I left in - no sound - Mulkey speaking with the official after the Griner play. You can see the official says she gave Schimmel a warning.

As I watched the game again my thought was this is where the tenor changed. Up until then it was Louisville hitting 3s - and some crazy ones, at that - and Baylor not being aggressive. There really wasn't a whole lot of stuff missed on either end by the crew. When Schimmel got into Griner and didn't get a T, it got personal and it was tough to reign things back in.

Again, just the opinion of a tired video guy.

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Old Wed Apr 03, 2013, 11:31am
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I'm not an experienced official and maybe I'm completely wrong but I would have given the Louisville player a T for taunting just because they had a decent lead. If Louisville was down by 16, then I would think that the player was taunting just to fire the team up and would have let it go with a warning.
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Old Wed Apr 03, 2013, 11:40am
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That taunting gets a T regardless of the score.
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Old Wed Apr 03, 2013, 11:45am
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I can see where they let the first one go and give a warning. I am not saying it is right, or I would do that, but I can see it. Simms' play is actually more taunting than the first play, the L-Ville girl didn't taunt much if at all. Actually Baylor kind of got lucky that the double T was called, but I can unserstand it. It seems they were at least trying to get some kind of control.
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Old Wed Apr 03, 2013, 12:18pm
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I can see where they let the first one go and give a warning. I am not saying it is right, or I would do that, but I can see it. Simms' play is actually more taunting than the first play, the L-Ville girl didn't taunt much if at all. Actually Baylor kind of got lucky that the double T was called, but I can unserstand it. It seems they were at least trying to get some kind of control.
I disagree with the bolded.

The endline camera view of the first play shows the UL player getting up in Griner's face and yelling something at her. It is the definition of taunting.

The second play it looks like the Baylor player took exception to what she thought was a bump/elbow by the UL player taking the ball out for the inbound. Both taunting but I don't see how this was more of a taunt than the first play.

And I could be wrong but from reading your post in the various threads related to this game I'm picking up a very strong anti-Baylor bias.
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Old Wed Apr 03, 2013, 12:23pm
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I disagree with the bolded.

The endline camera view of the first play shows the UL player getting up in Griner's face and yelling something at her. It is the definition of taunting.

The second play it looks like the Baylor player took exception to what she thought was a bump/elbow by the UL player taking the ball out for the inbound. Both taunting but I don't see how this was more of a taunt than the first play.

And I could be wrong but from reading your post in the various threads related to this game I'm picking up a very strong anti-Baylor bias.
Simms does the exact same thing and even crosses the endline to go get the girl. Semantics really, as I believe both should have been called. However with the double T it doesn't look like the L-ville player does much.

I have no anti Baylor bias, I in fact grew up and lived for half my life only 45 minutes from Waco. I just think that Mulkey complaining about the game being to physical is the pot calling the kettle black, when she had the most dominating physcial player ever in the womens game. That's all.

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Old Wed Apr 03, 2013, 03:12pm
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I don't think the game was overly physical, in regards to calls that weren't made. Watching the game again I found a couple of times the crew could've put a whistle on something and didn't and a couple of times they put a whistle on something a little later than some would have liked. Otherwise, IMO, it was called pretty well from that standpoint. There wasn't any post play to speak of on the Louisville offensive end (16-25 from three will do that) and Baylor didn't use Griner as well as it could have.

Did Louisville just have two defensive players not even paying attention to what was going on away from Griner? Yep. When I saw it live my first thought was Walz must've seen the NC State "30 for 30" episode and decided to do to Griner what Valvano did when the Wolfpack played against Ralph Sampson - triangle-and-2 with the 2 on the post player. Griner had to fight through some stuff but even she implied it wasn't anything unusual. The fouls were 24-14 for the game, three Louisville starters fouled out and another had four.

Again, to me where the game changed was when Baylor woke up emotionally after Schimmel got into Griner's face. From that point Baylor's attitude changed (they outscored Louisville 33-17) and the whole tone of the game changed but it didn't seem like the crew adjusted fast enough to the little things.
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this game was "weakly" officiated from start to finish. they did not have any control on the game and allowed multiple fouls and infractions by both teams to go un-punished. this was a classic case of a crew that was "reactionary" rather than being "proactive".

Coach Mulkey was corrected in her postgame press conference: "This game was WAY too physical from the very beginning!".
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