What it takes to get a technical foul (coaches perception)

[ref3808]

Most HS coaches would be surprised if they read 10-4-1 which specifies that an unsporting foul inlcludes, but is not limited to:

a. Disrespectfully addressing an official.
b. Attepting to influenece an official's decision
c. Using profane or inapproprate language or obscence gestures
d. Disrespectfully addressing, baiting or taunting an opponent.
e. Objecting to an official's decision by rising from the bench or using gestures
f. inciting undesirable crowd reactions
g. being charged with fighting
h. Removing the jersey and or pants/skirt within the visual confines of the playing arda
i. grasping either basket (not likley from a coach)

I suggest that given those definitions coaches should be assessed with technical's with much greater frequency then they are presently.

Coaches are under the impression that only c or maybe h will earn them that technical foul. The bar is set much lower if you consider a, b and e.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ref3808

Most HS coaches would be surprised if they read 10-4-1 which specifies that an unsporting foul inlcludes, but is not limited to:

a. Disrespectfully addressing an official.
b. Attepting to influenece an official's decision
c. Using profane or inapproprate language or obscence gestures
d. Disrespectfully addressing, baiting or taunting an opponent.
e. Objecting to an official's decision by rising from the bench or using gestures
f. inciting undesirable crowd reactions
g. being charged with fighting
h. Removing the jersey and or pants/skirt within the visual confines of the playing arda
i. grasping either basket (not likley from a coach)

I suggest that given those definitions coaches should be assessed with technical's with much greater frequency then they are presently.

Coaches are under the impression that only c or maybe h will earn them that technical foul. The bar is set much lower if you consider a, b and e.

And it appears Miller committed all 3 on some level.

Peace

[JeffM]

Originally Posted by ref3808

Most HS coaches would be surprised if they read 10-4-1 which specifies that an unsporting foul inlcludes, but is not limited to:

a. Disrespectfully addressing an official.
b. Attepting to influenece an official's decision
c. Using profane or inapproprate language or obscence gestures
d. Disrespectfully addressing, baiting or taunting an opponent.
e. Objecting to an official's decision by rising from the bench or using gestures
f. inciting undesirable crowd reactions
g. being charged with fighting
h. Removing the jersey and or pants/skirt within the visual confines of the playing arda
i. grasping either basket (not likley from a coach)

I suggest that given those definitions coaches should be assessed with technical's with much greater frequency then they are presently.

Coaches are under the impression that only c or maybe h will earn them that technical foul. The bar is set much lower if you consider a, b and e.

But, we don't give technicals for these behaviors. While the list permits us to give technicals for a lot of things, it isn't expected that we call technicals for these behaviors.

[zebraman]

Originally Posted by JeffM

But, we don't give technicals for these behaviors. While the list permits us to give technicals for a lot of things, it isn't expected that we call technicals for these behaviors.

We don't?

It isn't expected by whom?

[JeffM]

Originally Posted by zebraman

We don't?

It isn't expected by whom?

For example, I don't know of any official who gives a technical when a coach tries to influence a call.

I don't think giving a technical foul under those circumstances would be expected by the official's partner, the coach, or the fans.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JeffM

For example, I don't know of any official who gives a technical when a coach tries to influence a call.

I don't think giving a technical foul under those circumstances would be expected by the official's partner, the coach, or the fans.

If it's prolonged, I will. That's what's expected.
If it's repetitious, I will. That's what's expected.
Either of these will generally get a warning.

If it's once or twice a quarter ("That's a travel"), I don't generally pay attention.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JeffM

For example, I don't know of any official who gives a technical when a coach tries to influence a call.

I don't think giving a technical foul under those circumstances would be expected by the official's partner, the coach, or the fans.

Giving an exaggerated travelling signal after being warned about behavior?

Repeatedly slapping his own arm when he wants a foul call?

That would get a T ever in your games?

[JeffM]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Giving an exaggerated travelling signal after being warned about behavior?

Repeatedly slapping his own arm when he wants a foul call?

That would get a T ever in your games?

The exaggerated travelling signal after a warning earns a T.

Slapping his own arm deserves a warning...to be followed by a T if it is repeated.

But, I'm not giving a T the first time a coach yells "Three seconds" or even "over-the-back" Even though I know the coach is trying to influence the calls, I'm not giving him a T, even if there is a rule against it.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by JeffM

The exaggerated travelling signal after a warning earns a T.

Slapping his own arm deserves a warning...to be followed by a T if it is repeated.

But, I'm not giving a T the first time a coach yells "Three seconds" or even "over-the-back" Even though I know the coach is trying to influence the calls, I'm not giving him a T, even if there is a rule against it.

Sounds like common sense to me. And nothing that will get much of an argument here...but you do realize that you are contradicting what you said before, right? You said you would not T for these things, but now you say you will T for these things...