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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 03:56pm
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Baylor girls' coach did this in the Louisville game Sunday after the pc call with 16.9 seconds left. No T.
Thanks. Read about it and heard it but didn't see it.
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 04:00pm
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Thanks. Read about it and heard it but didn't see it.
My 13 year old daughter doesn't throw fits like that. My 7 year old son does, however.
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 04:05pm
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My 13 year old daughter doesn't throw fits like that. My 7 year old son does, however.
I can identify.
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 04:11pm
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Most HS coaches would be surprised if they read 10-4-1 which specifies that an unsporting foul inlcludes, but is not limited to:

a. Disrespectfully addressing an official.
b. Attepting to influenece an official's decision
c. Using profane or inapproprate language or obscence gestures
d. Disrespectfully addressing, baiting or taunting an opponent.
e. Objecting to an official's decision by rising from the bench or using gestures
f. inciting undesirable crowd reactions
g. being charged with fighting
h. Removing the jersey and or pants/skirt within the visual confines of the playing arda
i. grasping either basket (not likley from a coach)

I suggest that given those definitions coaches should be assessed with technical's with much greater frequency then they are presently.

Coaches are under the impression that only c or maybe h will earn them that technical foul. The bar is set much lower if you consider a, b and e.
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 04:15pm
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Most HS coaches would be surprised if they read 10-4-1 which specifies that an unsporting foul inlcludes, but is not limited to:

a. Disrespectfully addressing an official.
b. Attepting to influenece an official's decision
c. Using profane or inapproprate language or obscence gestures
d. Disrespectfully addressing, baiting or taunting an opponent.
e. Objecting to an official's decision by rising from the bench or using gestures
f. inciting undesirable crowd reactions
g. being charged with fighting
h. Removing the jersey and or pants/skirt within the visual confines of the playing arda
i. grasping either basket (not likley from a coach)

I suggest that given those definitions coaches should be assessed with technical's with much greater frequency then they are presently.

Coaches are under the impression that only c or maybe h will earn them that technical foul. The bar is set much lower if you consider a, b and e.
And it appears Miller committed all 3 on some level.

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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 07:51pm
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Most HS coaches would be surprised if they read 10-4-1 which specifies that an unsporting foul inlcludes, but is not limited to:

a. Disrespectfully addressing an official.
b. Attepting to influenece an official's decision
c. Using profane or inapproprate language or obscence gestures
d. Disrespectfully addressing, baiting or taunting an opponent.
e. Objecting to an official's decision by rising from the bench or using gestures
f. inciting undesirable crowd reactions
g. being charged with fighting
h. Removing the jersey and or pants/skirt within the visual confines of the playing arda
i. grasping either basket (not likley from a coach)

I suggest that given those definitions coaches should be assessed with technical's with much greater frequency then they are presently.

Coaches are under the impression that only c or maybe h will earn them that technical foul. The bar is set much lower if you consider a, b and e.
But, we don't give technicals for these behaviors. While the list permits us to give technicals for a lot of things, it isn't expected that we call technicals for these behaviors.
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 08:14pm
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But, we don't give technicals for these behaviors. While the list permits us to give technicals for a lot of things, it isn't expected that we call technicals for these behaviors.
We don't?

It isn't expected by whom?
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 09:29pm
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We don't?

It isn't expected by whom?
For example, I don't know of any official who gives a technical when a coach tries to influence a call.

I don't think giving a technical foul under those circumstances would be expected by the official's partner, the coach, or the fans.
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 09:33pm
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For example, I don't know of any official who gives a technical when a coach tries to influence a call.

I don't think giving a technical foul under those circumstances would be expected by the official's partner, the coach, or the fans.
If it's prolonged, I will. That's what's expected.
If it's repetitious, I will. That's what's expected.
Either of these will generally get a warning.

If it's once or twice a quarter ("That's a travel"), I don't generally pay attention.
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 09:53pm
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For example, I don't know of any official who gives a technical when a coach tries to influence a call.

I don't think giving a technical foul under those circumstances would be expected by the official's partner, the coach, or the fans.
Giving an exaggerated travelling signal after being warned about behavior?

Repeatedly slapping his own arm when he wants a foul call?

That would get a T ever in your games?
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Old Tue Apr 02, 2013, 08:07pm
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My 13 year old daughter doesn't throw fits like that. My 7 year old son does, however.
Hopefully he doesn't wear spaghetti strap tops...
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Good to know that these adults think that there need to be 3 qualifiers

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