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Old Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:52pm
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Then I will agree to disagree with some...I still say charge and applaud the T for coming and getting the call no matter how late the whistle.
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Old Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:58pm
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Then I will agree to disagree with some...I still say charge and applaud the T for coming and getting the call no matter how late the whistle.
That's terrible.
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Old Sun Mar 31, 2013, 11:22pm
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My opinion

I only watched a couple moments of this game. What I saw of the officiating did not impress me one bit. I fully admit, I am not the best ref in the world, and mostly work rec league and middle school games.

The first really bad missed call I saw was the charge on Louisville that lead to the T for the coach. The defender clearly slide under the shooter after she left the floor. That is a blocking foul, not a charge. Had that call been called correctly the T is never called, which could have had a major impact on the game.

My first reaction to the charge call on Baylor very late was it was a correct call. After seeing the replay, I'm not so sure, but I will give the benefit of the doubt to the official on the call of a charge. What I had a problem with was the lateness of the call.

It was the same lateness that happened on the last foul called against Baylor on Louisville last ditch effort. The official seemed scared to make a call and called the foul WAY late.

Also can someone please explain why Louisville's coach was given a T, but Baylor's coach, and the Baylor bench was not given a T after the late call they disagreed with?

Overall just what I saw was very poor officiating, and I only saw a small portion of the game.
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Old Sun Mar 31, 2013, 11:27pm
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I only watched a couple moments of this game. What I saw of the officiating did not impress me one bit. I fully admit, I am not the best ref in the world, and mostly work rec league and middle school games.

The first really bad missed call I saw was the charge on Louisville that lead to the T for the coach. The defender clearly slide under the shooter after she left the floor. That is a blocking foul, not a charge. Had that call been called correctly the T is never called, which could have had a major impact on the game.

My first reaction to the charge call on Baylor very late was it was a correct call. After seeing the replay, I'm not so sure, but I will give the benefit of the doubt to the official on the call of a charge. What I had a problem with was the lateness of the call.

It was the same lateness that happened on the last foul called against Baylor on Louisville last ditch effort. The official seemed scared to make a call and called the foul WAY late.

Also can someone please explain why Louisville's coach was given a T, but Baylor's coach, and the Baylor bench was not given a T after the late call they disagreed with?

Overall just what I saw was very poor officiating, and I only saw a small portion of the game.
Not commenting on the "officiating" in general. But I thought the PC on Louisville was a good call.
The PC on Baylor was not the right call.

You're correct on the technical fouls. I don't think this crew did a great job with sportsmanship (they missed a taunting T that would have avoided a later double T). I'd like to know what the Louisville coach said that got the call, and would bet they'll be downgraded more for not sticking the Baylor coach than for calling that flop/charge. She's right, they'll probably not move on; but she's got the reasoning wrong.
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Old Sun Mar 31, 2013, 11:31pm
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Not commenting on the "officiating" in general. But I thought the PC on Louisville was a good call.
The PC on Baylor was not the right call.

You're correct on the technical fouls. I don't think this crew did a great job with sportsmanship (they missed a taunting T that would have avoided a later double T). I'd like to know what the Louisville coach said that got the call, and would bet they'll be downgraded more for not sticking the Baylor coach than for calling that flop/charge. She's right, they'll probably not move on; but she's got the reasoning wrong.
How can you think the PC foul on Louisville was the right call. It was pretty clear the shooter had gone airborne well prior to the defender establishing defensive position on the play. Unless there is some new form of physics in play I haven't heard of the offensive player had no way to avoid contact once she took off to a spot that was open when she left the ground. You have to allow an airborne player the opportunity to land if you haven't established defensive position prior to her leaving the floor.
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Never mind on the last 20 seconds, but I'm still curious about the earlier Louisville PC call everyone's discussing, if anyone gets a chance.
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How can you think the PC foul on Louisville was the right call. It was pretty clear the shooter had gone airborne well prior to the defender establishing defensive position on the play. Unless there is some new form of physics in play I haven't heard of the offensive player had no way to avoid contact once she took off to a spot that was open when she left the ground. You have to allow an airborne player the opportunity to land if you haven't established defensive position prior to her leaving the floor.
I'm telling you what I saw when I watched it live. I'd like to see a replay, and reserve the option to change my mind.
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I'm telling you what I saw when I watched it live. I'd like to see a replay, and reserve the option to change my mind.
We will have to reserve judgement till you see the replay.

I know when I saw the play live I knew then it was a block. Seeing the replay of the play just confirmed what I saw when it happened.
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