Louisville/Baylor (Women)

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by OKREF

He wanted to go with an out of bounds call. Had to call that foul.

He absolutely DID NOT want to make that call. Not only did he "double clutch" on the fist...he wanted until AFTER the ball was bouncing up after landing out of bounds.

It was the latest I've ever seen a call made on an "obvious" and "must call" foul. It was correct. And. It. Was. Exceptionally. Late.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I'm shocked you know what they are talking about.

Flipped over when I read this thread and ESPN was doing a highlight of the game which made be see if Baylor would use. Still on a high over the previous games so I needed a basketball fix. Not watching baseball, not happening.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

He absolutely DID NOT want to make that call. Not only did he "double clutch" on the fist...he wanted until AFTER the ball was bouncing up after landing out of bounds.

It was the latest I've ever seen a call made on an "obvious" and "must call" foul. It was correct. And. It. Was. Exceptionally. Late.

The timing is irrelevant, but the fact that he didn't *want* to call a foul there speaks volumes.

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by Rich

The timing is irrelevant, but the fact that he didn't *want* to call a foul there speaks volumes.

The timing speaks to the lengths the L was willing to go to NOT call a foul there. After an "officiating eternity", he realized he HAD to call that foul and blew his whistle....

This is the same official who, as the C, passed on a charge call on Baylor's PG with under a minute left (it occurred in the middle of the lane a step below the FT line). The T had to come and get it....He didn't want to call this one either.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

The timing speaks to the lengths the L was willing to go to NOT call a foul there. After an "officiating eternity", he realized he HAD to call that foul and blew his whistle....

This is the same official who, as the C, passed on a charge call on Baylor's PG with under a minute left (it occurred in the middle of the lane a step below the FT line). The T had to come and get it....He didn't want to call this one either.

He called the foul so it really doesnt matter to me if he "wanted to" or not. He did.

As for the PC that the T came and got, I think that was a bad whistle there.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

He called the foul so it really doesnt matter to me if he "wanted to" or not. He did.

As for the PC that the T came and got, I think that was a bad whistle there.

It does matter if you want people to believe in you and your calls. He looked very unsure of himself and that is the time of the game when you really have to look confident. It is a Regional Semifinal for God's sake. I would expect that action from a JV official, not someone working D1.

Peace

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It does matter if you want people to believe in you and your calls. He looked very unsure of himself and that is the time of the game when you really have to look confident. It is a Regional Semifinal for God's sake. I would expect that action from a JV official, not someone working D1.

Peace

Good point. I was just referring to the length of time.

But he absolutely should come strong and confident whenever he does put air in it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

Good point. I was just referring to the length of time.

But he absolutely should come strong and confident whenever he does put air in it.

And this is what I have always heard as, "Anticipate the play, not the call." He had to know that there was a possibility for a foul with two players closing hard on a fast break. He has got to know something is going to happen and likely a foul. Just be ready to call something and he did not appear to be ready and was surprised (by his actions) that something took place.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And this is what I have always heard as, "Anticipate the play, not the call." He had to know that there was a possibility for a foul with two players closing hard on a fast break. He has got to know something is going to happen and likely a foul. Just be ready to call something and he did not appear to be ready and was surprised (by his actions) that something took place.

Peace

Yup. He could've put air in the whistle at the same time and still looked confident -- honestly, I thought he was going to no call it and call the OOB and I think he thought about doing just that for a moment. He ended up looking indecisive.

Just something to look at and try to learn from...

[Adam]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

As for the PC that the T came and got, I think that was a bad whistle there.

I agree. I wasn't thrilled with that call. Looked like a flop to me.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It does matter if you want people to believe in you and your calls. He looked very unsure of himself and that is the time of the game when you really have to look confident. It is a Regional Semifinal for God's sake. I would expect that action from a JV official, not someone working D1.

Peace

Exactly. It wasn't just the delay that looked bad, it was the double clutch combined with the delay.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

This was a POOR call. Defender clearly not in LGP prior to shooter leaving the floor.

I thought it was a good call.

[michblue]

I agree got to be ready to referee all the way to end of a game.

IMO, the charge call at the end against Baylor was correct. I do not see a block or flop on this play. T gave C every chance to get it and saved the crew with the call.

As for the comments Baylor's coach made in her press conference....she will be getting a call from the Big 12 or the NCAA or both to pay a fine.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by michblue

I agree got to be ready to referee all the way to end of a game.

IMO, the charge call at the end against Baylor was correct. I do not see a block or flop on this play. T gave C every chance to get it and saved the crew with the call.

As for the comments Baylor's coach made in her press conference....she will be getting a call from the Big 12 or the NCAA or both to pay a fine.

Saved the crew? Major league flop and bought the call, IMO.

I'm amazed that people can see something so differently.

[Adam]

Wow, just saw coach's comments in the postgame.

"Sad for the game." And that was after not getting a well-deserved T.

[michblue]

Originally Posted by Adam

Wow, just saw coach's comments in the postgame.

"Sad for the game." And that was after not getting a well-deserved T.

Exactly Adam...that is why I think the fine should be and will be stiff.